Leonardo Sidis said:
As a 14 year old, I have ADD and struggle to concentrate on one thing for a while. How profound would the effect be on an official IQ test. I've taken many in my life, and as you can see by my name, I have an odd obsession with learning about the capabilities of the human mind (Leonardo Da Vinci and William James Sidis both have IQ's estimated to have been 250-300. Yes I know I didn't believe it at first either, but if what I've read about Sidis is true, then the number seems accurate). I used to read for hours about this every day. I eventually ran out of free online IQ tests that I haven't taken, and began to buy books with tests. My obsession doesn't concern the score as much as it does the relation between the question, answer, and the mind.
When I was in 3rd grade (I am in 9th now), my teacher recommended I take the IQ test to qualify for the gifted program at my school (I assume it was Stanford-Binet, as my score on the test varies less with other Stanford-Binet scores than it does with Cattell). Weeks after the test, I was informed that I passed, and looked forward to participating in the gifted program the following year. However, in 4th grade, the first three weeks passed without me going to the gifted class, and I was informed that somehow my results were lost. Since they could not prove that I had passed, I had to take the test again, conscious of what the test was for. I wanted to be in badly, because, like many others here, I was bored in "regular" school and thought it would be more fun. I passed, and thus began my interest in the topic.
To address the question, my scores range from 136 to 182 (an outlier from testcafe), including internet tests, of which I am well aware of the accuracy. On the 12 minute timed test at highiqsociety.org I scored 152.
As an extreme perfectionist, I suffer from an odd mixture of underachievement from boredom, over-achievement from perfectionism, and apathy from my views concerning the future of life. I seem to procrastinate until the last day, and start working on projects around midnight on the day they're due. I usually tend to get 100s on them, to the aggravation of many of my peers. I had exams last week, didn't study at all, and felt that I did fine. I am also VERY familiar with the "sock-seam" thing mentioned previously. The superiority that I feel to some of my classmates sometimes approaches haughty disgust, and contributes to my overt vanity. I am honest though, and aware of my emotional ineptness.
Zoob, I remember reading that people with Asperger's Syndrome tend to excell Verbally and Mathematically (Bobby Fischer), but your post above mentioned a verbal weakness and emotional maladroitness suggested Asperger's. I may be wrong.
Sorry for the long post everyone, I know the feeling. It's just that I saw this thread and sort of freaked out.
Thank you, I also concur and I can relate. The reason I really don't like posting here (Despite almost everyone being very helpful) is that I get attacked. Or at least feel so. I suppose it's also envy, I feel that I'm stupid and everyone else is smarter than me. People brag about their IQ's, and I haven't seen anyones IQ 'average' or 'below average' like mine, supposedly.
No one here even said that I'm know a lot for my age. I really think I do. Just I'm frusterated no one cared to say this, I'm guessing the reason is because Im' either stupid, or there are, of course, many smarter people here. Yet when I explained my knowledge of relativity and special relativity (and some QM that I know), they thought I knew a lot for my age (This was a yahoo christian chatroom). Like Smurf said, he is very smart, and younger than me. I can't believe he knows what he does.
Yes , I may not 'understand' physics. I hate it when people say this. I say I understand the concepts, onlyt o be flamed and told "You can't understand it if you don't know the math behind it. " Excuse me? I don't know advanced calculus. My whole point was, yes, this is probably true, but I have a strong interest in math and physics (Not calculus yet, perhaps it will become easier once I become good at more algebra, trig, pre calc). I understood the fundamentals of it I should say, for example, I understand that bodies curve spacetime and cause other objects to orbit around them. But whenever I say I do, people always reject it, and tell me the lame "Youd on't know the physics behind it" crap.
I'm getting tired of it. Smurf, I know you were joking. Sorry if it came off wrong. Personal insults are not allowed here? LOL, that is outrageous. I honestly think I'm stupid (I have depression by the way), and I'm not allowed to say state my opinion about myself?
I'm just sick of the egostisitical people here, no one ever gives me 'positive' comments here about my intelligence. This is not to say people here aren't helpful, many are. I've gleamed great advice on this topic alone. And now I'm probably going to be flamed this way: "You started, it, now you're complaining. I mean, you started this thread. If you think we're
so smart , then why did you make this thread?"
I don't want to hear this, OK? In fact, don't even argue with me. I won't even start anymore threads because people always disagree. People say I'm not intelligent, not that I'm stupid, but they don't admit either.
It is just, depressing, to say the least to study my whole life, and learn so much about the human body, science, mathematics, philophy, and many other aspects only to be told you don't know anything. Thanks, that helps alot.
While many people *think* I have aspbergers, I probably don't. My doctor is a doctor, and while, he doesn't think so. He said I don't have any of the symptons, and like someone else mentioned here, he said that these type of people don't understand the relying concepts; well I do.
I understand why algebra works, etc. I don't understand certain things in math because I don't know how to understand the complex calculus aspects to the proofs.
Youre right, no one said I'm stupid, and no one said I'm smart either. I agree with the former.