What is the dot product of (b - proj of b onto a) with a?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of vector projections and orthogonality in linear algebra. The original poster is attempting to show that the vector orthogonal to \( b \) onto \( a \) is orthogonal to \( a \) itself.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the expression for the projection of \( b \) onto \( a \) and its implications for orthogonality. There is an exploration of vector notation and the manipulation of terms involving dot products.

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Some participants are providing guidance on clarifying vector notation and ensuring proper distinctions between vectors and scalars. There is an ongoing examination of the mathematical expressions involved, with no clear consensus yet on the next steps.

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There appears to be confusion regarding the notation used for projections and the distinction between vector and scalar quantities, which is affecting the clarity of the discussion.

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I get confused with this problems
show that the vector (orth of b onto a) = (b - proj of b onto a) is orthogonal to a.


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(b-proj of b onto a) dot a = 0
and I got stuck!
 
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Perhaps if you wrote out what "proj of b onto a" was in vector terms it would become easier.
 
For example, I say:
(b- a(a.b)/a^2).a=0
(b-(a.b)/a).a=0
a.b-a.((a.b)/a)=0
How can I do next?
 
baokhuyen said:
For example, I say:
(b- a(a.b)/a^2).a=0
You are not being careful to distinguish between vectors and numbers. The first "a" of "a(a.b)/a^2" is a vector while "a^2" is a number- the square of the length of a. You are trying to cancel them!

(b-(a.b)/a).a=0
with the result that you get this, which makes no sense! Does "(a.b)/a" mean you are dividing by a vector?

a.b-a.((a.b)/a)=0
How can I do next?
[tex]\left(\vec{b}- \frac{\vec{a}\cdot\vec{b}}{|a|^2}\vec{a}\right)\cdot\vec{a}[/tex]
[tex]\vec{b}\cdot\vec{a}- \frac{\vec{a}\cdot\vec{b}}{|a|^2}(\vec{a}\cdot\vec{a})[/tex]
Now, what is that equal to?
 

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