What is the drag force on a car traveling at different speeds?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the drag force on a car with specific dimensions traveling at different speeds. Participants are exploring the application of the drag force equation, which incorporates factors such as air density and cross-sectional area.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to apply the drag force equation D = 0.25pAv^2, questioning the values used for air density and the drag coefficient (C_d). Some express confusion over the correct application of the formula and the implications of different drag coefficients based on car design.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the correct parameters to use in the drag force calculation. Some participants have provided insights regarding the necessity of knowing the drag coefficient, while others are considering the impact of significant figures on their results. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed without a clear consensus.

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Participants note discrepancies in air density values and the relevance of the drag coefficient, with some referencing their textbooks for guidance. There is an acknowledgment that the drag coefficient can vary significantly based on the vehicle's design.

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What is the drag force on a 1.6 m wide, 1.4 high car traveling at

A) 10 m/s B) 30 m/s

I'm getting 68 N for part a and 615 N for part B using equation D=.25pAv^2


P= density of air (1.22 kg/m^3) and A is cross sectional area of obect as it faces the wind). *I plugged in 1.22 for p, 2.24 for A, and 30 for v but this is wrong according to the book. What am I doing wrong?

And I don't think I need it to solve this problem but *v terminal = sq rt (4mg/pA).
 
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I don't know how you can solve this problem without knowing the drag coefficient (C_d)for the car. The formula you note is for certain shapes with C_d =0.5; a car could have a greater or lesser C_d depending on its design. (Note: The terminal velocity equation you have noted is for a falling object with a C_d =0.5; it doesn't apply to objects traveling on a level surface.)
 
PhanthomJay said:
I don't know how you can solve this problem without knowing the drag coefficient (C_d)for the car. The formula you note is for certain shapes with C_d =0.5; a car could have a greater or lesser C_d depending on its design. (Note: The terminal velocity equation you have noted is for a falling object with a C_d =0.5; it doesn't apply to objects traveling on a level surface.)

my book says to consider Cd as .5 so I've already included it in the equation. The formula is actually .5CdpAv^2 but my books says Cd is .5 so the equation becomes D=.25pAv^2 so is my answer right? thanks
 
Looks OK to me. Maybe it's a significant figure thing.
 
Thank you kindly for all your help!
 
I'm stuck on the same problem about a car that is 1.6 meter wide and 1.4 meters tall and I have to find the drag force for it at 10 m/s and 30 m/s. But I got the wrong answer when I plugged it into the equation D= .25(rho)(Area)(Velocity^2). I found out that the velocity of Air is 1.29 kg/m^3 and plugged that in for rho but still no luck. Help!
 
rebprice said:
I'm stuck on the same problem about a car that is 1.6 meter wide and 1.4 meters tall and I have to find the drag force for it at 10 m/s and 30 m/s. But I got the wrong answer when I plugged it into the equation D= .25(rho)(Area)(Velocity^2). I found out that the velocity of Air is 1.29 kg/m^3 and plugged that in for rho but still no luck. Help!
Assuming quadratic drag and that Cd/2 = 0.25,, the equation is correct, where rho is the mass density of air. I don't know what the book assumed or gave for the drag coefficient...a mack truck would have a much greater drag cofficient than one of those modern 'bird shaped' vehicles.
 

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