What Is the Electric Dipole Moment of the Given System?

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The discussion revolves around determining the electric dipole moment of a system involving multiple charges, specifically considering the configuration of charges +2q, -q, and +q. Participants are exploring the conditions under which a dipole moment can exist and the implications of charge arrangements.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to reason that the dipole moment should be zero due to the lack of equal and opposite charges in the system. Some participants question the equilibrium of the system and whether the charges can move due to their interactions. Others suggest considering the system as a combination of dipoles to analyze the resultant dipole moment.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided insights into the nature of the charge distribution and its characterization. There is an ongoing exploration of the dipole moment's vector nature, with some participants clarifying the need to express it in vector form, including direction.

Contextual Notes

It is noted that the charges are fixed and cannot move, which influences the analysis of the dipole moment and the system's equilibrium state.

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Homework Statement


find the electric dipole moment of the system shown in figure
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Homework Equations


In the simple case of two point charges, one with charge +q and the other one with charge −q, the electric dipole moment p is:

where d is the displacement vector pointing from the negative charge to the positive charge.

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought dipole moment would be zero because there is no dipole in the system.+2q and -q can not make a dipole because for a dipole we need two equal and opposite charges which is not the case here.+2q and +q can not make a dipole either.and +q and +q they don't fulfil the criteria so if no dipole "dipole moment "should be zero.other confusion that i am facing is whether this system is in equilibrium .or the charges can move due to repulsion/attraction.
 
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The charges are supposed to be fixed, they can not move.
You can consider the array as if there were two -q charges at the bottom left corner, that is there are two dipoles. The dipole of the array is the resultant.
A charge distribution can be characterized by its net charge and momenta. It can have a net dipole momentum, of quadrupole momentum and so on.
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Thanks.My answer came out to be qa√2
 
gracy said:
Thanks.My answer came out to be qa√2
That is the magnitude of the dipole moment. But it is a vector. Write it as a vector either with its components, or give the direction.
 
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ehild said:
give the direction.
it would be in between the two vectors at 45 degrees
 
It is correct.
 
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