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The discussion revolves around the complex logarithm function, specifically in the context of solving the equation cos(x) = -2. Participants are exploring the implications of the solutions derived from this equation and the nature of complex logarithms.

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of solutions involving complex logarithms and question the appearance of additional terms, such as the extra pi and the negative sign in the solutions provided by Wolfram Alpha. There is also a focus on understanding the implications of the infinite solutions associated with the complex logarithm.

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Some participants are attempting to clarify their understanding of the solutions and the properties of logarithms in the complex domain. There is ongoing dialogue about the correctness of various approaches and the reasoning behind specific transformations. No consensus has been reached, but there is productive questioning and exploration of the topic.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the inverse cosine function and its domain restrictions, as well as the mathematical properties of logarithms in the context of complex numbers. There is acknowledgment of the need for clarity regarding the manipulation of terms in the equations.

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When was trying to solve this problem
cos(x)=-2 I got the following answers
i ln(2 +/- sqrt(3)) + 2 pi n
n set of integers positive and negative
now I was told by a couple of people on here to add 2 pi n to my solution because before it didn't have it. At the time I didn't understand why but now I do. All I did was simply think about it as an angle and hence adding multiples of 2 pi n give valid solutions but what I don't understand is why does
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=(i^((2x)/pi)+i^((-2x)/pi))/(2)=-2
give me the solutions of
x = 2 pi n + pi - i log(2 +/- sqrt(3) ), n set of positive and negative integers ?
Now please understand I get that there are an infinite number of solutions. I completely understand this. This is the reason why when we define a function as a mathematical formula or representation that only has one output value for each input value of it's domain is false, correct? The complex logarithm is a completley valid function. So I understand there are an infinite amount of solutions I just don't understand were that other pi came from or the -i. I was woundering if somebody cuold please explain this to me. Thank You!

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anybody please help?
 
You got your answer wrong. The inverse of cos(y)=x is

y=\frac{log\left(x\pm\sqrt{x^2-1}\right)}{i}

Can you spot your mistakes? There are two.
 
Iw asn't dong the inverse of cosine though sorry I forgot to mention it I was doing this

cos(x)=-2

so you don't have that domain restriction correct?
 
and I have no idea were that equation came from... also it's not normal to divide by i right
 
GreenPrint said:
and I have no idea were that equation came from... also it's not normal to divide by i right

I actually messed it up and was fixing it when you posted.

The domain restriction doesn't apply here, and dividing by i is just multiplying by -i... it's necessary.
 
ok well unforunatley i don't know were the mistakes are =(...
 
GreenPrint said:
ok well unforunatley i don't know were the mistakes are =(...

First, you multiplied by i instead of -i.

Second, the 2 in your answer should be a -2.

After a bit of playing with logarithmic properties, I managed to turn one of the answers into W-A's answer.
 
Tahnk youu
 
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Ok well wolfram's answer was this
x = 2 pi n + pi -i log(2-sqrt(3)), n element Z
and
x = 2 pi n + pi -i log(2+sqrt(3)), n element Z

now when i solved it I got this for my answers
x = iln(2+3^.5) + 2 pi n
and
iln(2-3^.5) + 2 pi n
n set of integers positive and negative

the two is not negative and I still don't know where that other pi came from in wolfram's answer can you please help
 
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GreenPrint said:
still need help

Ok well wolfram's answer was this
x = 2 pi n + pi -i log(2-sqrt(3)), n element Z
and
x = 2 pi n + pi -i log(2+sqrt(3)), n element Z

now when i solved it I got this for my answers
x = iln(2+3^.5) + 2 pi n
and
iln(2-3^.5) + 2 pi n
n set of integers positive and negative

the two is not negative and I still don't know where that other pi came from in wolfram's answer can you please help

Well, let's start with my answer, given by my inverse formula for cos(x)...

i\left(-log\left(-2\pm\sqrt{3}\right)\right)

Now if you factor the -1 out of the inside and then use the rule alog(b)=log(b^a), you get this:

ilog\left(\frac{-1}{2\pm\sqrt{3}}\right)

Which after using the rule log\left(\frac{a}{b}\right)=log(a)-log(b) becomes...

ilog(-1)-ilog(2\pm\sqrt{3})

From there it's just recognizing that ilog(-1)=-\pi=\pi+2\pi n for n=-1, an integer.
 

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