What is the final diameter of the bubble rising from the bottom of a lake?

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The problem involves a bubble rising from the bottom of a lake, with specific conditions regarding depth, temperature changes, and initial diameter. The objective is to determine the final diameter of the bubble when it reaches the surface, considering various physical principles.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of pressure equations and the impact of atmospheric and hydrostatic pressures on the bubble's behavior as it rises. There are attempts to clarify the correct formulation of the equations involved.

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Some participants have provided guidance on correcting the initial approach by including atmospheric pressure and converting units. There is an acknowledgment of the need for proper unit conversions, but no consensus on the final outcome has been reached.

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Homework Statement



A bubble rises from the bottom of a lake of depth 90 m, where the temperature is 4°C. The water temperature at the surface is 19°C. If the bubble's initial diameter is 1.00 mm, what is its diameter when it reaches the surface? (Ignore the surface tension of water. Assume the bubble warms as it rises to the same temperature as the water and retains a spherical shape. Assume Patm = 1.0 atm.)

Homework Equations



P1V1/T2=P2V2/V2
Vsphere = 4/3 pi r^3
P=pgd

The Attempt at a Solution



(1000*9.8*90/1000)*4/3*pi*.5^3/4=101.3*4/3*r^3/19

I get 3.458, which isn't right. Am I missing something?
 
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You are missing pi on the rhs and also you have not taken into consideration the overlying atmospheric pressure, along with the hydrostatic pressure.
 
How do the atmospheric and hydrostatic pressures fit in?
 
On the Lhs you simply took water pressure as the overall pressure, and did not include the pressure due to air above water, so overall pressure would be Pw+Patm . On the Rhs you need take only atmospheric pressure, which you have done correctly. Do you follow ?
 
So my equation should be
(882+101.3)*4/3*pi*.5^3/4=101.3*4/3*pi*r^3/19
Which gives r=2.846
So the final diameter should be 5.692 mm
This however is incorrect.
Am I still missing something?
 
I got it figured out. I had to convert the pressures from kPa to Pa, and the Temperature into Kelvins. Thanks for your help
 
You are welcome :)
 

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