What is the Final Velocity of a Baseball After Being Hit by a Bat?

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The problem involves a baseball being hit by a bat, where the initial speed of the baseball and the work done by the bat are provided. The goal is to determine the final velocity of the baseball after it has been hit and has risen to a certain height, while ignoring air resistance.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between work done on the baseball and its kinetic energy, questioning how to incorporate the work into their calculations. There are attempts to apply energy conservation principles to relate the energies before and after the hit.

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Some participants have provided calculations for kinetic and potential energy, while others have suggested using the total energy after the hit to set up equations for solving the final velocity. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of energy conservation principles, but no consensus has been reached on the correct final velocity.

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Participants mention confusion regarding the incorporation of work done by the bat and the assumptions made about potential energy at different heights. There is also a note about the educational context, including changes in teaching staff affecting the learning environment.

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A pitcher throws a 0.145-kg baseball, and it approaches the bat at a speed of 53.6 m/s. The bat does Wnc = 77.4 J of work on the ball in hitting it. Ignoring the air resistance, determine the speed of the ball after the ball leaves the bat and is 28.5 m above the point of impact.

The only thing I can think of here is that the x displacement is zero since the ball is hit straight up. this means the Cos(theta) is equal to 1. Other than that I am not sure where to begin. I've done similar problems to this, but I'm not so sure how to incorporate 77.4 J into any of my equations...Any ideas? Thanks!
 
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mikefitz said:
A pitcher throws a 0.145-kg baseball, and it approaches the bat at a speed of 53.6 m/s. The bat does Wnc = 77.4 J of work on the ball in hitting it. Ignoring the air resistance, determine the speed of the ball after the ball leaves the bat and is 28.5 m above the point of impact.

The only thing I can think of here is that the x displacement is zero since the ball is hit straight up. this means the Cos(theta) is equal to 1. Other than that I am not sure where to begin. I've done similar problems to this, but I'm not so sure how to incorporate 77.4 J into any of my equations...Any ideas? Thanks!

The work of the hit equals the change of kinetic energy of the ball before and after the hit. So, you can calculate the speed of the ball after the hit by using that fact. Further on, since total mechanical energy is conserved, you can use the fact that the sum of potential and kinetic energy of the ball right after the hit equals the sum of potential and kinetic energy which the ball has at the height of 28.5 m to retrieve the speed of the ball at the mentioned height.
 
My attempt at solving the problem:

KEbefore = .5*.145*53.6^2= 208.2896 J
PEbefore = 0

208.2896= .5*.145*v^2 + 40.5398 + 77.4
=.0725*v^2=90.3498

v^2=1246.2

v=35.30 m/s

This is wrong but I'm unsure why??
 
Answer this: What's the total energy of the ball immediately after getting hit by the bat?
 
Doc Al said:
Answer this: What's the total energy of the ball immediately after getting hit by the bat?


Total energy after hitting the ball would be:

208.2896 J + 77.4 J (KEbefore + Energy from the bat)

Then wouldn't you just take KEbefore + PEbefore and set it equal to KEafter + PEafter, then solve for v^2 like I did above? Sorry, I'm basically learning this from what I've read in my book; my teacher is being replaced on Wednesday for receiving such a low grade on student evaluations and a number of complaints by the student body as a whole (surprise surprise).

Thanks for the help!
 
mikefitz said:
Total energy after hitting the ball would be:

208.2896 J + 77.4 J (KEbefore + Energy from the bat)
Exactly!

Then wouldn't you just take KEbefore + PEbefore and set it equal to KEafter + PEafter, then solve for v^2 like I did above?
You would set that total energy which you just found equal to KEafter + PEafter. (Assuming you set PE = 0 when the ball is at the bat.) Then solve for v^2 like you did before.
 
v=58.20, thanks Doc Al!
 

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