How Does Kinetic Energy Change in a Baseball After Being Hit?

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The discussion revolves around the kinetic energy of a baseball after being hit, exploring concepts related to work done on the baseball by the bat and the air as it slows down. The subject area includes mechanics, specifically kinetic energy and work-energy principles.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for kinetic energy and work done, questioning the assumptions made about initial velocities. There is also inquiry into whether work can be negative and how to approach a related problem involving average force.

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Some participants express confidence in the calculations presented, while others highlight the importance of considering initial conditions. Guidance is offered regarding the relationship between work, force, and distance, suggesting a method to find average force based on energy increase.

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There is mention of missing initial velocity information, which affects the interpretation of work done by the bat. The discussion also touches on the assumptions necessary to solve the problems presented.

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Homework Statement


After being hit, a 0.145 kg baseball has a speed of 45.6 m/s.

1. What is the kinetic energy of the baseball after it has been hit?

2. How much work is done on the baseball by the baseball bat?

3. In moving through the air, the baseball slows down to a speed of 30.0 m/s. What work has the air done on the ball?

Homework Equations



K= (1/2)(m)v2
W= KEf-KEo[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution



1. KE = (1/2)(0.145kg)(45.6m/s)^2
KE = 150.75 J or 1.5 x 10^2J

2. W = 150.75J- 0J = 150.75J ( I assuming KEo is 0J since the kinetic energy of the baseball did not change even though its direction of motion is reversed)[/B]

3. W= KEf - KEo
W= (1/2)(0.145kg)(30.0m/s)^2 - 150.75j
W= 65.25 J - 150.75J
W = -85.5 J

I solved these 3 questions, but I don't think this isn't the right answers. Any criticism, advice or hint is appreciated.
 
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If that is the entire question, those answers look correct (I didn't do the calculations but your work seems right). However, it seems like the problem might have given you an initial velocity before being hit, which would obviously change the second answer. As is, this is correct.
 
mrnike992 said:
If that is the entire question, those answers look correct (I didn't do the calculations but your work seems right). However, it seems like the problem might have given you an initial velocity before being hit, which would obviously change the second answer. As is, this is correct.

Yeah, that was what the question was asking, it didn't give any initial velocity. Btw, for #3 can work be negative? I'm not sure if the work supposed to be positive or not.
 
Glenboro said:
Yeah, that was what the question was asking, it didn't give any initial velocity. Btw, for #3 can work be negative? I'm not sure if the work supposed to be positive or not.
Yes, work can be negative.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
Yes, work can be negative.
So, my answer in #3 is right ?
 
Yes, it's correct.
 
Glenboro said:
Yeah, that was what the question was asking, it didn't give any initial velocity.
You need to make an assumption about prior speed to answer the question. What seems more likely, that the speed was almost the same, or that it was so much less than after being struck that it can be taken as zero?
 
haruspex said:
You need to make an assumption about prior speed to answer the question. What seems more likely, that the speed was almost the same, or that it was so much less than after being struck that it can be taken as zero?
I will add one more question on this questions

1)If the force of the baseball bat acts in the direction of the motion of the ball and the bat and ball are in contact for 0.0120 m, determine the average force applied to the baseball by the bat. In this case, the force of gravity can be ignored.

I'm having bit of trouble with this question, can you tell me which equation I should use?
 
It looks like your instructor or textbook has fallen squarely into item 3 in one of our most recent Insights articles. https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/frequently-made-errors-mechanics-forces/

The intended approach in this case is for you compute the energy increase as work done. Work is the product of force times distance. If you know the energy and you know the distance [and if you are either casual or correctly careful about what is meant by "average"] then you can compute the average force.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
It looks like your instructor or textbook has fallen squarely into item 3 in one of our most recent Insights articles. https://www.physicsforums.com/insights/frequently-made-errors-mechanics-forces/

The intended approach in this case is for you compute the energy increase as work done. Work is the product of force times distance. If you know the energy and you know the distance [and if you are either casual or correctly careful about what is meant by "average"] then you can compute the average force.
Then, should I tell my instructor to look at that page? Btw, thank you for explanation.
 

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