What is the force of attraction between mars and the satellite?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the gravitational force of attraction between Mars and a satellite intended to orbit the planet. The problem involves understanding the variables in the gravitational force equation and determining the appropriate values to use based on the given parameters.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss what values to substitute for the variables in the gravitational force equation, questioning the meanings of each symbol and the implications of the radius being 1.6 times the radius of Mars.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the gravitational constant and the distinction between it and the acceleration due to gravity. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the radius and its implications for the calculation.

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Participants express concern about the correct interpretation of the radius in relation to the satellite's orbit and the gravitational equation. There is a focus on ensuring the correct units and dimensions are maintained throughout the discussion.

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Scientists want to place a 2900.0 kg satellite in orbit around Mars. They plan to have the satellite orbit a distance equal to 1.6 times the radius of Mars above the surface of the planet. Here is some information that will help solve this problem:



mmars = 6.4191 x 10^23 kg
rmars = 3.397 x 10^6 m
G = 6.67428 x 10^-11 N-m2/kg2


I know F = G * m * M /r^2


But what should I plug for r , m , M , G
 
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aruji73 said:
what should I plug for r , m , M , G
Start by making some suggestions that look reasonable to you.
 
aruji73 said:
what should I plug for r , m , M , G
What do you understand the various symbols to stand for in the equation?
 
What do you think ? I am worried about the radius because of the 1.6 times

m= 6.4191 x 10^23
G = is either 9.8 or 6.67428 x 10^-11
M= 2900
r=(1.6* 3.397 x 10^6) or 3.397 x 10^6
 
aruji73 said:
What do you think ? I am worried about the radius because of the 1.6 times

m= 6.4191 x 10^23
G = is either 9.8 or 6.67428 x 10^-11
M= 2900
r=(1.6* 3.397 x 10^6) or 3.397 x 10^6
There's not much point in knowing an equation if you don't know what the variables in it represent. In this one, G is the gravitational constant, not 'g', the acceleration due to gravity at Earth's surface. The dimensions of the two are quite different. If you track the units through your working (and it is a very good idea to do that) you'll see that using 9.81 m/s2 would give the wrong dimensions for force in the answer.
r is the distance between the masses. In principle, this should refer only to point masses. Gravitational attraction between two bodies of arbitrary shape can get pretty nasty. But luckily, the equation also works when the bodies are spherical and uniformly dense*. In this case, you take r to be the distance between the mass centres.
[*In fact, they don't need to be uniformly dense. It is enough that, in each, the density is only a function of distance from the centre.]
 

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