What is the function x(t) for an underdamped oscillating system

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The discussion revolves around finding the function x(t) for an underdamped oscillating system. Participants are examining the characteristics of the damped oscillation and the implications of initial conditions on the solution.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the general solution for a damped oscillating system, questioning the use of the exponential decay factor in the context of underdamping and the implications of initial conditions on the phase and amplitude.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's approach, providing clarifications on the necessity of the exponential decay factor in underdamped systems. There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and implications of damping in the context of the problem.

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There is some confusion regarding the definitions of underdamped versus undamped systems, which has led to questions about the appropriate use of the decay factor in the equation. Initial conditions and their impact on the solution are also under discussion.

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Approach: Use the solution for the damped oscillating system provided in the formula sheet. We must use the given initial conditions to find the unknown phase ##\phi## and that will give us an expression for ##x## in time. Could use the 'general' solution with the unknowns ##C_1## and ##C_2## but the math seems much harder, so we can use the form below to simplify the calculation.

Since it's underdamped, ##x(t) = A_0 e^{\frac{-t}{\tau}} cos(\omega't+\phi)##

Initial conditions: ##t=0, x = A_0## and ##t=0, \dot x=0##

Using initial conditions: ##A_0 = A_0 cos\phi## so that means ##\phi = 0##

But when using velocity, ##\dot x = 0 = A_0 (-\frac{1}{\tau}cos(0) - sin(0) \cdot \omega'## which would mean that the amplitude and/or damping rate are zero when the parts are stationary.

Does this mean ##x(t) = A_0 e^{\frac{-t}{\tau}} cos(\omega't)##?

Thanks in advance for any help, hints or comments :)
 

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The e^{-t/\tau} factor occurs due to the dampening it is the exponential decay of the amplitude as the dampening dissipates the energy. You should leave it out (effectively \tau \to \infty) for the undampened case.
 
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Thanks for your reply jambaugh.

In this question, it said the system was underdamped - I thought that mean the amplitude does decay exponentially over time. So should I still leave out the e^{-t/\tau} factor?
 
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The e^{-t/\tau} factor occurs due to the dampening it is the exponential decay of the amplitude as the dampening dissipates the energy. You should leave it out (effectively \tau \to \infty) for the undampened case.
It was underdamped , not undamped.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/oscda.html
 
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Damian said:
Thanks for your reply jambaugh.

In this question, it said the system was underdamped - I thought that mean the amplitude does decay exponentially over time. So should I still leave out the e^{-t/\tau} factor?
No, you need the exponential factor. But you should give τ and ω' in terms of γ and ω0.
 
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Oh, My bad eyesight! I read "under" as "un-". Very different case and your approach looks correct qualified with what ehild said. I apologize for my misreading your question. Did that twice now recently.
 
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