MHB What is the height of the tennis ball after bouncing off a basketball?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a tennis ball and a basketball, where the tennis ball is dropped from a height above the basketball. The problem requires calculating the height to which the tennis ball bounces after hitting the basketball, assuming elastic collisions and that the basketball's mass is significantly larger than that of the tennis ball. The scenario is set up with specific heights and masses, leading to a focus on the principles of momentum and energy conservation in elastic collisions. No solutions have been provided yet, and the problem is attributed to David Morin from Harvard. The thread encourages participation and solutions from readers.
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Here is this week's POTW:

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(N.B. I will give credit for this problem to where it's due, but only after next week.)

A tennis ball with (small) mass $m_2$ sits atop a basketball with (large) mass $m_1$. The bottom of the basketball is a height $h$ above the ground, and the bottom of the tennis ball is a height $h+d$ above the ground. The balls are dropped. To what height does the tennis ball bounce? Note: Work in the approximation where $m_1$ is much larger than $m_2$, and assume that the balls bounce elastically.

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No one answered this week's POTW, which is due to David Morin from Harvard. His solution follows:

For simplicity, assume that the balls are separated by a very small distance, so that the relevant bounces happen a short time apart. This assumption isn't necessary, but it makes for a slightly cleaner solution.

Just before the basketball hits the ground, both balls are moving downward with speed (using $mv^2/2=mgh$)
\begin{equation}\label{Eq:First}
v=\sqrt{2gh}
\end{equation}
Just after the basketball hits the ground, it moves upward with speed $v$, while the tennis ball still moves downward with speed $v$. The relative speed is therefore $2v$. After the balls bounce off each other, the relative speed is still $2v$. (This is clear if you look at things in the frame of the basketball, which is essentially a brick wall.1) Since the upward speed of the basketball essentially stays equal to $v$, the upward speed of the tennis ball is $2v+v=3v$. By conservation of energy, it will therefore rise to a height of $H=d+(3v)^2/(2g)$. But $v^2=2gh$, so we have
\begin{equation}\label{Eq:Second}
H=d+9h.
\end{equation}

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1 It turns out that the relative speed is the same before and after any elastic collision, independent of what the masses are. This is easily seen by working in the center-of-mass frame, where the masses simply reverse their velocities.
 

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