What is the history of roads specifically designed for motor vehicles?

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The discussion revolves around the history of roads specifically designed for motor vehicles, exploring when and where these roads first appeared, as well as the influence of other forms of transportation, such as bicycles. Participants are interested in the evolution of road surfaces and the transition from roads designed for horse-drawn traffic to those intended for motor vehicles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to identify the first road surfaced specifically for motor vehicles and questions when consideration for motor vehicles began.
  • Another participant highlights the role of bicycles in road development, mentioning the Cyclists' Touring Club founded in 1878, which campaigned for improved road surfaces.
  • A later reply reiterates the importance of the Cyclists' Touring Club in advocating for road improvements, suggesting it could mark the beginning of considerations for better road surfaces.
  • Another participant humorously questions when their street will be paved, implying a personal stake in the discussion.
  • One participant references the Long Island Motor Parkway as potentially the first road built specifically for automobiles, noting its historical significance and its current fragmented state.
  • Another participant mentions that sealed roads in the UK date back about 200 years, with the introduction of tar around 1900 to accommodate motor vehicles, and suggests that the Historic National Road in Cumberland, Maryland, may be the first proper road in the US.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints regarding the history and development of roads for motor vehicles, with no clear consensus on the first road or the timeline of developments. Multiple competing views remain regarding the significance of different roads and the influence of bicycles on road design.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference historical developments without resolving the exact timeline or definitions of what constitutes a road specifically for motor vehicles. There are unresolved assumptions regarding the influence of bicycles and the criteria for identifying the first dedicated motor vehicle road.

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I have tried to find out when the first road surfaced specifically for motor vehicles was, and where, obviously motor traffic used existing surfaced roads with horse drawn traffic in mind up to some time, so when did consideration for motor vehicles start?
 
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Don't forget bicycles - the Cyclists' Touring Club was founded in 1878 and part of it's campaigning at the start was for the improvement road surfaces.
 
chronon said:
Don't forget bicycles - the Cyclists' Touring Club was founded in 1878 and part of it's campaigning at the start was for the improvement road surfaces.


I never gave it a thought :smile: could that have been the start?
 
wolram said:
I have tried to find out when the first road surfaced specifically for motor vehicles was, and where, obviously motor traffic used existing surfaced roads with horse drawn traffic in mind up to some time, so when did consideration for motor vehicles start?
And more to the point, when are they going to pave the street to my house?
 
jimmysnyder said:
And more to the point, when are they going to pave the street to my house?

May be when you have sufficient clout, like some one says by heck jimmy must have a smooth drive to work :smile:
 
NYT said:
A 100-Year-Old Dream: A Road Just for Cars
IT survives only as segments of other highways, as a right of way for power lines and as a bike trail, but the Long Island Motor Parkway still holds a sense of magic as what some historians say is the country’s first road built specifically for the automobile. It opened 100 years ago last Friday as a rich man’s dream.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/12/automobiles/12LIMP.html?partner=rssnyt
 
Sealed roads are about 200years old in the UK with macadam'ed surfaces.
Tar was added from about 1900 to stop motor vehicles disturbing the surface - hence tarmac.

The first proper road in the US is probably 'Historic National Road' in Cumberland Maryland
 

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