What is the Impact of Functions on Sets?

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The discussion revolves around the impact of functions on sets, particularly focusing on a proposition involving the behavior of a function when applied to unions and intersections of subsets. Participants are examining potential typos in the problem statement and questioning the definitions and implications of injections in this context.

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  • Participants are identifying typos in the problem statement and discussing the implications of these errors on the validity of the proposition. They are also considering counterexamples to challenge the original claim regarding injections.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the problem and questioning the assumptions made in the original statement. Some guidance has been offered regarding looking for examples related to functions acting on sets, although no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation of the proposition.

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There are noted typos in the problem statement that may affect the understanding of the proposition. Participants are also exploring the definitions of injections and their relevance to the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement



It is located in the pdf or the following link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/50331847/hw". There seems to be 2 typos:

"1. There should not be an initial "If" at the beginning.
2. The intersection on the right side of the equation should be a union, I believe."

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The Attempt at a Solution



I spent a large amount of time thinking about how to do this, and I cannot figure it out. Can anyone please help me? Thanks.
 

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Homework Statement



It is located in the pdf or the following link: http://www.scribd.com/doc/50331847/hw". There seems to be a typo; there is no "if" before the set relationship.


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The Attempt at a Solution



I spent a large amount of time thinking about how to do this, and I cannot figure it out. Can anyone please help me? Thanks.
I believe there are two typos.
As stated, the proposition is:
Let f: S -> T. If f(A [itex]\cup[/itex] B) = f(A) [itex]\cap[/itex] f(B) for all subsets A
and B of S if and only if f is an injection.

1. There should not be an initial "If" at the beginning.
2. The intersection on the right side of the equation should be a union, I believe. Here's a counterexample. Let f(x) = csc(x) with domain the sets A = [-1, 0) and B = (0, 1]. f is clearly one-to-one, so is an injection.

f(A [itex]\cup[/itex] B) = (-[itex]\infty[/itex], -1] [itex]\cup[/itex] [1, [itex]\infty[/itex]), but f(A) [itex]\cup[/itex] f(B) is the empty set. This is a contradiction of one of the two conditions if the iff proposition.

With the foregoing in mind, I believe the proposition should be:
Let f: S -> T. f(A [itex]\cup[/itex] B) = f(A) [itex]\cup[/itex] f(B) for all subsets A
and B of S if and only if f is an injection.
 
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Mark44 said:
I believe there are two typos.
As stated, the proposition is:
Let f: S -> T. If f(A [itex]\cup[/itex] B) = f(A) [itex]\cap[/itex] f(B) for all subsets A
and B of S if and only if f is an injection.

1. There should not be an initial "If" at the beginning.
2. The intersection on the right side of the equation should be a union, I believe. Here's a counterexample. Let f(x) = csc(x) with domain the sets A = [-1, 0) and B = (0, 1]. f is clearly one-to-one, so is an injection.

f(A [itex]\cup[/itex] B) = (-[itex]\infty[/itex], -1] [itex]\cup[/itex] [1, [itex]\infty[/itex]), but f(A) [itex]\cup[/itex] f(B) is the empty set. This is a contradiction of one of the two conditions if the iff proposition.

With the foregoing in mind, I believe the proposition should be:
Let f: S -> T. f(A [itex]\cup[/itex] B) = f(A) [itex]\cup[/itex] f(B) for all subsets A
and B of S if and only if f is an injection.

Yes, you are correct. I just checked the problem. Any ideas on how to approach this?
 
Your book might have some similar examples.
 
Mark44 said:
Your book might have some similar examples.

My book has examples about the functions acting on sets. But, it does not have any examples relating to injections, surjections, bijections relating to functions on sets.
 
It doesn't have to have examples where the functions are injections, surjections, whatever. Look for examples or theorems about what a function does to a union of sets, and then look up the definition of injection (i.e. one-to-one) .
 

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