What is the intensity of sound at the pain level of 120 dB?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the intensity of sound at the pain level of 120 dB and comparing it to the intensity of a whisper at 20 dB. Participants are exploring the relationship between sound levels measured in decibels and their corresponding intensities in watts per square meter.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate sound intensity using the formula relating decibels to intensity. Some participants question the choice of reference intensity (I0) and its implications for the calculations. Others suggest clarifying the definitions of terms used in the equations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different interpretations of the equations and questioning the assumptions made regarding the reference intensity. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach, but there is engagement with the mathematical relationships involved.

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Participants are discussing the threshold of hearing and the pain threshold, noting that the reference intensity (I0) is typically set at 1.0 x 10^-12 W/m^2. There is some confusion regarding the use of this value in calculations.

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What is the intensity of sound at the pain level of 120 dB? Compare this to that of a whisper at 20 dB?

b=10 log (I/ I0)
120 dB=10 log (I/1)
10^12=(I/ 1)
I= 10^12 W/m^2


b=10 log (I/I0)
20 dB=10 log (I/1)
10^2=(I/1)
I=10^2 W/m^2


The intensity of 120 dB would be 10^12 W/m^2 compared to the whisper with the intensity at 10^2 W/m^2 which equals 10^10 more intense.

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How did I0 become 1? Where did you get that from?
 
This is the pain threshold
 
This should look better:

SL=10 log(Sl/10)
I=Io10^(sl/10) = (1.0*10-12 W/m^2) = 1 W/m^2


SL=10 log(Sl/10)
I=Io10^(sl/10) = (1.0*10-12 W/m^2) = 1.0*10^-10 W/m^2
 
needhelp83 said:
This should look better:

SL=10 log(Sl/10)
I=Io10^(sl/10) = (1.0*10-12 W/m^2) = 1 W/m^2


SL=10 log(Sl/10)
I=Io10^(sl/10) = (1.0*10-12 W/m^2) = 1.0*10^-10 W/m^2
It sounds to me like you are trying to use the answer to find the answer. The things I highlighted in red in your quote are not equalities. I think your first equation was OK, but I_o is not the pain threshold; it is the threshoold of hearing, the 1.0*10-12 W/m^2. If you had used that instead of 1 in your original equation, you would have found the correct value for I. The value you got initially would knock your head off.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/sound/intens.html
 

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