What is the issue with applying the Laplace transform to tcos(4t)?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the Laplace transform to the function f(t) = tcos(4t). A participant expresses confusion about obtaining the opposite sign in their results when using the formula for the Laplace transform of t multiplied by a function. After some back and forth, it is clarified that the issue stemmed from an incorrect application of the quotient rule during differentiation. Ultimately, the correct approach leads to the expected result without the sign error. The resolution emphasizes the importance of accurate differentiation techniques in Laplace transforms.
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Homework Statement


f(t)=tcos(4t)

Homework Equations



tnf(t)=(-1)n dF(s)/dsn

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't understand why this formula is giving me the oppiste sign of the answer.

If I apply the formula I get

(16-s2)/(s2+16)2

Because n=1 I need to multiply by a negative but this yields the incorrect answer.
 
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Feodalherren said:

Homework Statement


f(t)=tcos(4t)

Homework Equations



tnf(t)=(-1)n dF(s)/dsn

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't understand why this formula is giving me the oppiste sign of the answer.

If I apply the formula I get

(16-s2)/(s2+16)2

Because n=1 I need to multiply by a negative but this yields the incorrect answer.

$$-\frac{-s^2+16}{(s^2+16)^2}=\frac{s^2-16}{(s^2+16)^2}$$which is correct.
 
His answer doesn't have a negative in front?
Edit: nevermind, looking at wrong thing. Carry on
 
But that's not what I'm getting.

Taking the derivative of s/(s2+16)

= (s(2s)-(s2+16)/(s2+16)2

now multiply the result with -1 and we get the opposite sign for the answer.
 
Feodalherren said:
But that's not what I'm getting.

Taking the derivative of s/(s2+16)

= (s(2s)-(s2+16)/(s2+16)2

now multiply the result with -1 and we get the opposite sign for the answer.

That is because your quotient rule is wrong.
 
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Ah I see. Thank you!
 

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