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The discussion revolves around calculating the Laplace transformation for the function 1/cos(t), which is related to trigonometric functions and their transformations in the context of Laplace transforms.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to apply various trigonometric identities to express 1/cos(t) in different forms but find these approaches unproductive. Some question the existence of the Laplace transform for this function due to its singularities at specific points.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to evaluate the Laplace transform using its definition, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the feasibility of the integration involved. There is acknowledgment of the function's singularities, leading to a broader questioning of the problem's validity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the function 1/cos(t) has singularities at odd multiples of π/2, raising concerns about the existence of the Laplace transform in a conventional sense. There is mention of previous attempts to solve related differential equations without using the Laplace transformation.

banutraul

Homework Statement


You have to calculated the Laplace transformation for 1/ cos(t)

Homework Equations


That's all

The Attempt at a Solution


i tryed whit some trigonometric formulas but i don't get anywhere : 1/cos(t) = cos(t) / (1- sin ^2 (t)) or 1/cos(t) = cos(t) + sin(t) x tg(t) or 1/cos(t)= (tg(t))' cos(t) ...
 
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banutraul said:

Homework Statement


You have to calculated the Laplace transformation for 1/ cos(t)

Homework Equations


That's all

The Attempt at a Solution


i tryed whit some trigonometric formulas but i don't get anywhere : 1/cos(t) = cos(t) / (1- sin ^2 (t)) or 1/cos(t) = cos(t) + sin(t) x tg(t) or 1/cos(t)= (tg(t))' cos(t) ...
Did you try using the definition of the Laplace Transform?
Note that ##\frac 1 {\cos(t)} = \sec(t)##, so using the definition would entail evaluating this integral:
$$ \int_0^\infty \sec(t)e^{-st}dt$$
I haven't attempted doing this integration, so don't know how easy or difficult it would be. Possibly it could be done using integration by parts.
 
banutraul said:

Homework Statement


You have to calculated the Laplace transformation for 1/ cos(t)

Homework Equations


That's all

The Attempt at a Solution


i tryed whit some trigonometric formulas but i don't get anywhere : 1/cos(t) = cos(t) / (1- sin ^2 (t)) or 1/cos(t) = cos(t) + sin(t) x tg(t) or 1/cos(t)= (tg(t))' cos(t) ...

I don't know whether the Laplace transform of your ##f(t) = 1/ \cos(t) ## exists in any sense, either as an ordinary function or as a "generalized function". The problem is that ##f(t)## has singularities at ##t = (2n+1) \pi/2, n = 0,2,3, \ldots## because ##\cos(t)## passes through ##0## at those values of ##t##. Maybe something like an infinite sum of principal-value integrals will work, but it will not be straightforward at all!

Where did you get this problem? It looks ill-conceived to me.
 
Is this even defined? Secant is undefined at odd multiples of ##\pi/2##.
 
Ray Vickson said:
I don't know whether the Laplace transform of your ##f(t) = 1/ \cos(t) ## exists in any sense, either as an ordinary function or as a "generalized function". The problem is that ##f(t)## has singularities at ##t = (2n+1) \pi/2, n = 0,2,3, \ldots## because ##\cos(t)## passes through ##0## at those values of ##t##. Maybe something like an infinite sum of principal-value integrals will work, but it will not be straightforward at all!

Where did you get this problem? It looks ill-conceived to me.
Now i know that the Laplace transform dose'nt exist , there was a diferential ecuation but i solved it without this transformation , thank you
 
Mark44 said:
Did you try using the definition of the Laplace Transform?
Note that ##\frac 1 {\cos(t)} = \sec(t)##, so using the definition would entail evaluating this integral:
$$ \int_0^\infty \sec(t)e^{-st}dt$$
I haven't attempted doing this integration, so don't know how easy or difficult it would be. Possibly it could be done using integration by parts.

This transformation doesn't exist , i find this on other website , thank you
 

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