What Is the Least Possible Value for the Function f(4)?

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The discussion revolves around determining the least possible value for the function f(4), given that f(1)=10 and the derivative f'(x) is greater than or equal to 2 for all x in the interval (1, 4).

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  • Participants explore the implications of the derivative condition on the function's behavior, with some suggesting the use of the Mean Value Theorem and others questioning the necessity of a specific theorem to justify their reasoning.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to justify the least value of f(4). Some participants have offered insights into the relationship between the function and its derivative, while others are questioning the assumptions and seeking clarification on theorems that may support their reasoning.

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Participants are discussing the need for a formal theorem to validate their reasoning about the function's behavior based on its derivative, as well as the implications of the Intermediate Value Theorem in this context.

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Homework Statement


f(1)=10
f'(x) >= 2 for every x in R
1<x<4
find the least possible value for f(4)


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f is differentiable on R therefore continuous there exist a C such that
f(4)-10 / 3 = f'(C) >=2
f(4)-10 / 3 >= 2
f(4) >= 16 , so the least value is 16
I want to know if this second approach is correct because my teacher said it is correct but you must present a theorem to write it
I want to say that suppose we make g (x) = 2x + 10 so since the least value for f(4) is if f' is always the least possible value which is 2 and for f' to always equal two it must be a straight line but I only know that is a line from x=1 so i must make 10 my y intercept 4 is actually 3 units away from 1 so my line starts from 0 which equals 2 in the function so 4 is 3 so f(3) = 6+10 = 16
how can I make more reasonable mathematics out of this?
 
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So basically, you want to show that f(x)\geq 2x+10.

For x=1, this is true.
Assume that there is a x>1 such that f(x)<2x+10. Now apply the mean value theorem to 1 and x...
 
micromass said:
So basically, you want to show that f(x)\geq 2x+10.

For x=1, this is true.
Assume that there is a x>1 such that f(x)<2x+10. Now apply the mean value theorem to 1 and x...

I don't think so f(1) =10 but 2*1 +10 = 12 12>10 but that isn't what I am saying because I am using 2x+10 only starting from 1 I am using another axis such that when x=0 in the axis of the original function x=0 in 2x+10.
 
The smallest value of f' is 2, which is what f'(x) >= 2 means. This also means that the graph of f has to lie on or above the line segment whose slope is 2, that passes through (1, 10). What is the y-coordinate on this line when x = 4? This will be the smallest possible value for f(4).
 
y=2x+b
2+b=10
b=8
y=2x+8
=2*4+8=16
but is there a theorem or a definition that tells me that in order to get the least value I need to use a line with slope two? I mean I get it with common sense but there is no theorem that says if f' is always two f will be the least value which is my problem.
 
You could probably do something with the intermediate value theorem. The basic idea is that the graph of f has to lie on or above the line between (1, 10) and (4, 16). Otherwise, if the graph of f were below this line, the IVT guarantees that for some c such 1 <= c <= 4, f'(c) = 2. This means that for some x > c, f'(c) > 2, which you can't have.
 

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