What is the Limit of (a^t + b^t)/2^(1/t) as t approaches infinity?

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The problem involves calculating the limit of the expression (a^t + b^t)/2^(1/t) as t approaches infinity, focusing on the behavior of the terms involved as t increases.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to simplify the limit expression by factoring out a^t and analyzing the behavior of the terms as t approaches infinity. Some participants suggest calculating the limit of the logarithm of the expression instead, while others express confusion about the implications of this approach.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to evaluate the limit, including the use of logarithms and L'Hôpital's rule. There is recognition of the challenges posed by the infinite limits in both the numerator and denominator, with suggestions for alternative approaches being discussed.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential complexities arising from the values of a and b, particularly if they are complex numbers, which may affect the limit evaluation.

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Homework Statement


Calculate [tex]lim{t-> + \infty} ( \frac{a^t + b^t)}{2}) ^ {1/t}[/tex]


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[tex]lim _{t-> + \infty} ( \frac{a^t + b^t)}{2}) ^ {1/t} = lim_{t-> + \infty} ( a^t ( \frac{1 + b^t/a^t)}{2}) ^ {1/t} = lim_{t-> + \infty} ( a ( \frac{1 + (b/a)^t)}{2}) ^ {1/t} = lim_{t-> + \infty} ( a ( \frac{1 + (b/a)^t)^{1/t} }{2}) ^ {1/t}) = lim_{t-> + \infty} ( a ( {1 + (b/a)^t)^{1/t}=a[/tex]

Because 1\t aproacges 0 as t aproaches infinity.
Is this ok?
thanks
Tal






 
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Maybe you could try to calculate the limit of the logarithm of this expression instead? Find the limit, and then transform it back using the inverse log.

Torquil
 
I don't see how that helps/ I get [tex]\frac {ln(a^t+b^t)/2}{t}[/tex] which seems to have an infinite limit
 
The denominator has an infinite limit, and the numerator will have either an infinite positive or negative limit depending a bit on the values of a and b. Or I guess undefined if a and/or b are allowed to be complex numbers.

There are some standard techniques that are used to deal with this case when both the numerator and denominator diverge towards infinity.

Torquil
 
I'm assuming you are talking about Le'Hospital (Pardon the spelling, english is not my native language, we call it Lupital).
So taking it that way i have
[tex]lim_{t-> \infty} ln( \frac {a^t + b^t}{2})^(1/t)= lim_{t-> \infty} \frac {(ln(a^t + b^t)/2)}{t} = \frac {ln(a)a^t+ln(b)b^t}{2(a^t+b^t)}[/tex]
at which point i get stuck. Because i will receive infinity / infinity everttime.
Thanks
 
Yes, but now your can e.g. divide by a^t both over and under, to get expressions like (b/a)^t. And you can define x := (b/a)^t. E.g., the limit t -> infty would be the same as x -> infty if b/a>1. After that you can use L'Hopital again on the x-variable to get the answer.

Of course, maybe it would have been possible to use the x := (b/a)^t variable all the way from the beginning, I didn't think of that at first.

Torquil
 

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