What is the link between proportion and multiplication?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between multiplication and proportion, exploring how multiplication can model proportionality. Participants raise questions about the nature of this link, particularly in terms of scaling and the interpretation of ratios.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that multiplication represents a form of scaling, where a number is increased or decreased proportionally.
  • One participant questions what it means to scale something up proportionally, specifically asking what the scaling is relative to.
  • A participant explains that scaling can be understood through the analogy of length, suggesting that multiplying a number can be visualized as stretching a line to a new length while maintaining proportional relationships.
  • Another participant introduces the mathematical expression “A is proportional to B” as a way to define proportionality in terms of multiplication.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of how multiplication relates to proportion, with some agreeing on the scaling aspect while others seek clarification on the foundational concepts. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the nature of this relationship.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference external sources and literature that discuss multiplicative reasoning, indicating that the topic may involve complex conceptual fields that are not fully agreed upon or understood.

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What is the link between proportion and multiplication? WHY DOES and how can multiplication model proportionality?
I found this quote online:

“Multiplication is the mathematical manifestation of the fundamental physical phenomenon of proportionality (as addition is to combination).”

Question 1: How are multiplication and proportion linked? How can and WHY DOES multiplication model proportion? (My understanding of proportion is the equivalence of ratios)

Also saw this "Multiplication is scaling a number up proportionally up or down"

Question 2: What does this mean to scale something up proportionally , proportionally to WHAT? . e.g. if I had 7.2 * 3.2 , how do I think of that as proportionally scaling? What am I scaling proportionally to what?

Edit:

These questions were formed when I was doing re-search on the true nature of multiplication, some things I have read about this topic:

https://www.maa.org/external_archive/devlin/devlin_06_08.html and https://www.maa.org/external_archive/devlin/devlin_01_11.html

I have also tried to read " Development of Multiplicative Reasoning in the Learning of Mathematics" it talked about multiplicative conceptual fields but it got quite confusing and dragged on and I didn't really understand the book.

Thanks in advance for the help!
 
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Haris045 said:
Question 2: What does this mean to scale something up proportionally , proportionally to WHAT? . e.g. if I had 7.2 * 3.2 , how do I think of that as proportionally scaling? What am I scaling proportionally to what?
You are scaling either number proportionally to its original 'size' or 'quantity'.
It's easier with whole numbers, so let's say we are multiplying 7x3.
Think of the number 7 as a line that's 7 units long. Multiplying by 3 means that we increase the length of the original line until it is 3x longer. And, since multiplication of two real numbers is commutative, meaning that the order you place them in doesn't matter, you can consider 3 to be scaled up by 7x. You can think about it as if it is the same line that's just been stretched out. The line is now larger than it was originally, meaning its proportions have increased.

In this case the only proportion it has is length since it's a line, but the same concept applies to things like 2d and 3d shapes where a multiplication by a single number scales all proportions up or down such that the new shape retains the same ratios in its proportions as the old. That is, a square whose side lengths are multiplied by 2x still has a 1-to-1 ratio of its new side lengths. A rectangle with sides 1x2 in length that are multiplied by 2x now has sides of 2x4, which have the same 1-to-2 ratio as their original lengths.
 
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Did you find any of the replies you got to a similar question a week and a half ago useful?
 
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Haris045 said:
Summary: What is the link between proportion and multiplication? WHY DOES and how can multiplication model proportionality?

How are multiplication and proportion linked?
The statement “A is proportional to B” means ##A=k \times B##
 
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