What is the Magnitude of Force Exerted on a Meteorite Striking a Car at 530 m/s?

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The problem involves a meteorite weighing 27 pounds striking a car at a speed of 530 m/s, resulting in a dent approximately 28 cm deep. Participants are tasked with determining the average force exerted on the meteorite by the car.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of acceleration using the kinematic equation and the subsequent calculation of force using F=ma. There is a focus on whether the calculations are correct and the implications of other forces acting on the meteorite, such as its weight.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, noting that the force of the car on the meteorite must be considered alongside other forces. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions made regarding the direction of the meteorite's travel and the impact's effects.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not specify the direction of the meteorite's travel, leading to questions about how to account for various forces. Additionally, there is skepticism about the realism of the scenario, given the expected damage from such an impact.

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Homework Statement



A 27 pound meteorite fell and struck a car, creating a dent about 28 cm deep. If the initial speed of the meteorite was 530 m/s, what was the magnitude of the average force exerted on the meteorite by the car?

Homework Equations



Vf^2=Vi^2+2ad
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



Just need someone to tell me if my work is right.

I found the acceleration using Vf^2=Vi^2+2ad it came out to be-501,607 m/s^2

I to the mass of the meteorite 27/2.2= 12.273 kg and multiplied it my the acceleration and came up with 6.156 MN.

Did I do this problem right?
 
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PhyzicsOfHockey said:

Homework Statement



A 27 pound meteorite fell and struck a car, creating a dent about 28 cm deep. If the initial speed of the meteorite was 530 m/s, what was the magnitude of the average force exerted on the meteorite by the car?

Homework Equations



Vf^2=Vi^2+2ad
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



Just need someone to tell me if my work is right.

I found the acceleration using Vf^2=Vi^2+2ad it came out to be-501,607 m/s^2

I to the mass of the meteorite 27/2.2= 12.273 kg and multiplied it my the acceleration and came up with 6.156 MN.

Did I do this problem right?
Not quite. Using F =ma gives you the net average force acting on the meteorite. Threre is more than one force acting. You are asked to find the force of the car on the meteorite.
 
PhanthomJay said:
Not quite. Using F =ma gives you the net average force acting on the meteorite. Threre is more than one force acting. You are asked to find the force of the car on the meteorite.


Isn't the force equal but opposite?
 
PhyzicsOfHockey said:
Isn't the force equal but opposite?

Your calculation seems right to me (I did not check the numbers, just the method)

Patrick
 
I suppose PhantomJay is referring to other forces on the meteorite such as its own weight.

Its weight of 12.273*9.8 N = 0.00012 MN is negligible compared to the force caused by the impact, so it is reasonable to ignore it.

The question doesn't say what direction the meteorite was travelling, and if you have ever seen a "shooting star", there is no reason to assume it would be falling vertically downwards. So even if you did want to include the weight, you don't know how to add the two force vectors.
 
AlephZero said:
I suppose PhantomJay is referring to other forces on the meteorite such as its own weight.

Its weight of 12.273*9.8 N = 0.00012 MN is negligible compared to the force caused by the impact, so it is reasonable to ignore it.

The question doesn't say what direction the meteorite was travelling, and if you have ever seen a "shooting star", there is no reason to assume it would be falling vertically downwards. So even if you did want to include the weight, you don't know how to add the two force vectors.
Yes, I was referring to the weight, however, you are correct, it is negligible and the direction is unknown anyway. I should have looked at the numbers first.
 
PhanthomJay said:
I should have looked at the numbers first.

So should the person who invented the question, IMO. A 27 lb meteorite traveling at 530 m/sec wouldn't make a 28 cm deep dent in the car, it would make a hole in the roof and another hole in the floor.

(I've worked on what happens when parts of jet engines break, and I know how much damage a 20 lb object traveling at "only" 200 m/sec can do, because I've seen the results of the experiment).
 

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