What is the magnitude of the induced EMF?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of induced electromotive force (EMF) in a scenario involving changing area and constant magnetic field. Participants are exploring the relationship between magnetic flux and the rate of change of flux.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the dependence of EMF on the rate of change of magnetic flux rather than the flux itself. There are questions about the greatest rate of change and how to visualize it using sine or cosine graphs. Some suggest computing the magnetic flux first and then its derivative, while others clarify the conditions under which certain equations apply.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the problem with various suggestions for approaching the calculations. Some participants have provided guidance on writing equations for dimensions as functions of time and how to express magnetic flux in relation to area and magnetic field. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and attempts to clarify the setup without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the magnetic field is constant while the area is changing, which affects the applicability of certain equations. There is also mention of a correction regarding the formulation of the magnetic flux equation.

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Homework Statement
A rectangular wire loop (length = 60 cm, width = 40 cm) lies completely within a perpendicular and uniform magnetic field of magnitude of 0.5 T. If the length of the loop starts increasing at a rate of 20 mm/s at time t= 0, while the width is decreasing at the same rate, what is the magnitude of the inducede mf at time t= 4.0 s?
a.6.8 mV
b.5.2 mV
c.3.6 mV
d.8.4 mV
e.10 mV

Answer: C
Relevant Equations
dΦB/dt = dB/dt*A
I did the question in this way as attached. I got the crrect answer, but I feel unsure if it is the right way of doing it.
 

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According to your equation there, Emf depends on the rate of change of flux, not on the flux itself.

So, where is the rate of change greatest? It helps to picture the sin or cos graph.
 
rsk said:
According to your equation there, Emf depends on the rate of change of flux, not on the flux itself.

So, where is the rate of change greatest? It helps to picture the sin or cos graph.
I typed the wrong question. I just edited and saved the question just now, could you read it again? thanks
 
I'd suggest you first compute the flux and later on, the derivative. You've made a mistake.
 
hidemi said:
Relevant Equations:: dΦB/dt = dB/dt*A
You mean dΦ/dt = dB/dt*A. This applies when B is changing and A is constant. But in this question B is constant and A changing. So the equation is irrelevant.

Try working through these steps.

1. Write an equation for the length (in metres) as a function of time (in seconds).

2. Similarly for width.

3. Using the above, write an expression for the area (in square metres) as a function of time.

4. Since the field is perpendicular to the plane of the loop ##\phi = BA##. Write an expression for ##\frac {d\Phi}{dt}## assuming both B and A are functions of time (use the product rule).

In this question B is constant and A is a function of time. So what is ##\frac {d\Phi}{dt}##?

See if you can take it from there.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
You mean dΦ/dt = dB/dt*A. This applies when B is changing and A is constant. But in this question B is constant and A changing. So the equation is irrelevant.

Try working through these steps.

1. Write an equation for the length (in metres) as a function of time (in seconds).

2. Similarly for width.

3. Using the above, write an expression for the area (in square metres) as a function of time.

4. Since the field is perpendicular to the plane of the loop ##\phi = BA##. Write an expression for ##\frac {d\Phi}{dt}## assuming both B and A are functions of time (use the product rule).

In this question B is constant and A is a function of time. So what is ##\frac {d\Phi}{dt}##?

See if you can take it from there.
I got it. Thank you so much.
 
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