What is the maximum velocity of a motorbike on a curved track?

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The maximum velocity of a motorbike on a curved track is determined by the equation vmax = √(μgR), where μ is the coefficient of friction, g is the acceleration due to gravity, and R is the radius of the curve. The discussion emphasizes that the motorbike must lean into the curve to maintain this speed without slipping, although the angle of lean does not affect the maximum velocity itself. The participants also explore the relationship between centripetal and tangential acceleration, concluding that the maximum acceleration is limited by friction.

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  • #31
Pranav-Arora said:
This one:
\left(\frac{v_{max}^2}{R}\right)^2+(a_t)^2=(\mu g)^2
I think I am wrong about substituting ##a_t=v(dv/ds)## in this equation as it is only applicable for max acceleration. :confused:

You can always write ##a_c^2 + a_t^2 = a^2## at any time during the motion, not just at the time when you reach maximum speed. See what you get if you substitute ##a_t = v dv/ds## in this equation with ##v## not at max value.
 
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TSny said:
You can always write ##a_c^2 + a_t^2 = a^2## at any time during the motion, not just at the time when you reach maximum speed. See what you get if you substitute ##a_t = v dv/ds## in this equation.

I tried substituting it but I get a differential equation which is not solvable. :(
 
  • #33
Pranav-Arora said:
I tried substituting it but I get a differential equation which is not solvable. :(

What equation did you get?
 
  • #34
TSny said:
What equation did you get?

Sorry, I replied hastily before.

\left(\frac{v^2}{R}\right)^2+\left(v\frac{dv}{ds}\right)^2=(\mu g)^2
It can be rewriten as (I am substituting ##\mu g=k##)
\frac{dv}{ds}=\frac{1}{vR}\sqrt{R^2k^2-v^4}
\frac{vR dv}{\sqrt{R^2k^2-v^4}}=dx

Integrating v from 0 to ##v_{max}## and s from 0 to ##s_{min}##
\frac{R}{2}arctan\left(\frac{v_{max}^2}{\sqrt{R^2k^2-v^4}}\right)=s_{min}
What should I substitute from ##v_{max}##? :confused:
 
  • #35
At ##v_{max}## what is the direction of the total acceleration?
 
  • #36
TSny said:
At ##v_{max}## what is the direction of the total acceleration?

Towards the center? So ##v_{max}=\sqrt{\mu gR}##?
 
  • #37
Pranav-Arora said:
Towards the center? So ##v_{max}=\sqrt{\mu gR}##?

Yes.
 
  • #38
TSny said:
Yes.

Thank you TSny! :smile:

Substituting this value of ##v_{max}## in the final equation, I get ##s_{min}=\pi R/4##.
 
  • #39
Pranav-Arora said:
I get ##s_{min}=\pi R/4##.

I think that's right.
 

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