What is the minimum frequency needed to spin a bucket without spilling water?

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The minimum frequency required to spin a bucket filled with water without spilling is derived from the principles of circular motion. Given a rope length of L=1m, the minimum speed at the top of the circular path must satisfy the equation v²/L = g, leading to v = √(g*L). The corresponding minimum frequency is calculated as f = (1/2π) * √(g/L). This formula ensures that the centripetal force is sufficient to keep the water in the bucket during vertical motion.

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a bucket is filled with water and tied to a rope with a length of "L=1m", the bucket is then spun in a verticle circular motion ,
what is the minimum frequency the bucket can be spun at in order for the water to not spill?

i realize that i need to find the centripeutal force. is it mv^2/r??

from there i can find f=(v/L)*(1/2pi)

the correct answer is (1/2pi)*sqrt(g/L)--- where have i gone wrong
 
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devanlevin said:
i realize that i need to find the centripeutal force. is it mv^2/r??
Yes.

from there i can find f=(v/L)*(1/2pi)
How did you get this result?
 
using the equation for frequency in circular motion, i realize its wrong,
do i need to compare mv^2/L to mg, saying that it will not fall out when mv^2/L=mg
ie when v^2/L=g
v=(sqrt(g*L)
still not right??
 
devanlevin said:
do i need to compare mv^2/L to mg, saying that it will not fall out when mv^2/L=mg
ie when v^2/L=g
v=(sqrt(g*L)
Yes, that's the minimum speed at the top to keep the water in the bucket. Use that speed to find the minimum frequency. Hint: It goes in a circle.
 
so, using equation for frequency (f)

\omega=2(pi)f

f=\frac{\omega}{2pi}

\omega=\frac{v}{L}

f=\frac{v/L}{2pi}


v=\sqrt{g*L}

f=\frac{\sqrt{g*L}/L}{2\pi}
 
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devanlevin said:
f=\frac{\sqrt{g*L}/L}{2\pi}
Good. Now simplify that a bit so it looks like the given answer.
 
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