What is the net advection of sensible and latent heat?

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter AppeltjeBosheuvel
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Heat Latent heat Net
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on the concepts of advection of latent heat (Alat) and advection of sensible heat (Ah) within the context of an Energy Balance equation. Alat refers to the transport of water vapor into a control volume, carrying potential latent heat, while Ah represents the heat carried by moving air. The net heat flow into a control volume is determined by the difference between incoming and outgoing heat flows, including both sensible and latent heat. The conversation also clarifies that latent heat is released only upon condensation, and that convection is a form of advection.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Energy Balance equations
  • Knowledge of latent and sensible heat concepts
  • Familiarity with advection and its implications in thermodynamics
  • Basic grasp of heat transfer mechanisms (conduction, convection, radiation)
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the principles of thermodynamics related to latent and sensible heat
  • Explore the role of advection in atmospheric science
  • Learn about Energy Balance equations in meteorology
  • Investigate heat exchange systems, such as heat exchangers in ventilation
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in meteorology, climate science, and environmental engineering, as well as anyone interested in understanding heat transfer processes in atmospheric systems.

AppeltjeBosheuvel
I am looking at an Energy Balance equation (see images) for latent and sensible heat. However, I don't understand the terms 'advection of latent heat' Alat and 'advection of sensible heat' Ah. They positively enter the system, but how do they differ from latent and sensible heat itself?
 

Attachments

  • Screen Shot 2017-10-04 at 5.09.25 PM.png
    Screen Shot 2017-10-04 at 5.09.25 PM.png
    2.9 KB · Views: 629
  • Screen Shot 2017-10-04 at 5.09.19 PM.png
    Screen Shot 2017-10-04 at 5.09.19 PM.png
    9.1 KB · Views: 637
Science news on Phys.org
Advection means transported or carried by a fluid. So for example if you had some steam flowing in a pipe that condensed at it's destination you could say you had both the advection of latent heat and the advection of sensible/specific heat. Advection can also be used in other contexts such as the transport or advection of salt or freshwater or pollution etc
 
Thanks for your reply!

Advection of Latent Heat
So when it happens in air, does advection of latent heat mean that water vapor gets carried into the control volume? Cause it carries the latent heat needed to potentially evaporate? And when it does evaporate does it then leave the control system as 'regular' latent heat LvE?

Advection of Sensible Heat
One more question, how does sensible heat then get transported through air? I find it hard to imagine.
 
AppeltjeBosheuvel said:
So when it happens in air, does advection of latent heat mean that water vapor gets carried into the control volume?
Yes.
Cause it carries the latent heat needed to potentially evaporate? And when it does evaporate does it then leave the control system as 'regular' latent heat LvE?

No. Water vapour is water that has already been evaporated. So water vapour brings sensible and (if it condenses) latent heat into the control volume.

AppeltjeBosheuvel said:
One more question, how does sensible heat then get transported through air? I find it hard to imagine.

It's not "through air", its movement of the air. If hot air flows into a control volume it carries sensible heat with it. At the same time cooler air may flow out of the control volume taking less heat with it. The net heat flow into the control volume will be the difference between the two heat flows (and any others).

The reverse happens in your house in winter. Cold air comes in (ventilation) and warm air escapes. The heat loss by this advection is hopefully replaced by your heating system. Some houses like mine have a vent system with a heat exchanger to mitigate the problem by extracting heat from the outgoing air and using it to warm the incoming air.
 
Ok. I get that part now :D

Advection latent: is energy that moves with watervapor in air through advection. Watervapor has 'potential' latent heat that doesn't release until it condenses.
Advection sensible: is heat that moves with air through advection
LvC: when water condensate or evaporates within control volume.
LvE out: when latent heat associated with evaporation leaves the control (when watervapor leaves control volume)

And then how does advective sensible heat (Ah) differ from sensible heat (H)? Is H just sensible heat leaving the system in any other way than advective (with for example convection?).

Thank you!

:)
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Convection would also be advection as the air is moving.

Where did you get the picture/diagram from? I think H might be radiated heat.
 
Got it from my the pdf atmospherebook. It states sensible heat is on left, latent heat on right. Also that H is sensible heat flux, Q net radiation, LvE latent heat flux (with Lv latent heat of evaporation). With storage of sensible heat in air, vegetation and soil on left, and only one type of latent storage on right.
 
So my interpretation would be:

On the left..
Heat flows..
Ah = Sensible heat carried into the control area (eg warm/cold winds)
Q = Net heat flow by radiation
H = Sensible heat flow by conduction
G = Sensible heat flow by conduction
Heat stores..
ΔSha = change in Sensible heat in the air (air temperature change)
ΔShv = change in Sensible heat in vegetation (veg temperature change)
ΔShs = change in Sensible heat in soil (soil temperature change)

On the right..
Heat flows..
Alat = Latent heat carried into the control area (water vapour)
LvE = Latent heat carried out of the control area (water vapour)
Heat stores..
ΔSlat = change in Latent heat in the air (change in humidity)

The arrows between the two sides..
LvCl-g = Heat converted between Sensible and Latent that stays in the control area (ice-water, water-vapour)

I'm not 100% certain about Alat and LvE. Why don't they just have one arrow indicating the net flow of latent heat.
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
15K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
10K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
5K
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 28 ·
Replies
28
Views
3K