What is the net electric force exerted on the point charge q1?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the net electric force exerted on a point charge, specifically focusing on the forces acting on charge q1 due to other charges in the system. The problem involves understanding electric forces, charge interactions, and the application of Coulomb's law.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces using Coulomb's law, questioning the correctness of charge values and the directionality of forces. There are attempts to clarify the setup of the problem and the assumptions regarding positive and negative directions.

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Several participants provide feedback on the calculations, pointing out potential errors in the use of charge values and the interpretation of the force directions. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of formulas, with some participants confirming their calculations while others express confusion about discrepancies in results.

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Homework Statement


Given that q = 20 µC and d = 11 cm, find the direction and magnitude of the net electric force exerted on the point charge q1 below.

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Homework Equations


F(elect) = k (q1,q2)/d^2

The Attempt at a Solution



1. after converting each unit to its appropriate form,
F(net 1x) = +(k(q(1)[(2.0)q(2)])/d^2) + -(k(q(1)[(3.0)q(3)])/2d^2)

= +[(9.0e^9 N m^2/C^2)(20e^-6 C)(4e^-5 C)/0.0121 m^2] - [(9.0e^9 N m^2/C^2)(20e^-6)(6e^-5)/0.0484 m^2)

2. F(net1x) = 595.041 - 446.281 = 148.8 N towards q2 (it came back wrong though) [/B]
 
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Check to see if you used the correct charges for your second force.
 
Also, I'm not sure which direction you are taking to be the positive direction.
 
TSny said:
Also, I'm not sure which direction you are taking to be the positive direction.
i'm using +q(1,2) going right and -q(1,3) going left. I still get -446.281 N in the second force
 
Did you use the correct value of q1 in the second force?

(I see that you are using "toward the right" as the positive direction. Good.)
 
It looks like you are plugging the correct numbers into your second force, but I get half the value that you get for the second force.
 
TSny said:
It looks like you are plugging the correct numbers into your second force, but I get half the value that you get for the second force.
Did you use the same number/equation as well?

F(net(q1,3))= k(q1 *(3.0)(q3))/2(d)^2

= - ( (9.0e^9 N m^2/C^2) * 20e^-6 C * (3.0)(20e^-6 C) )/ 2 (0.11 m)^2 = - 446.3 N
 
Physicsnoob90 said:
Did you use the same number/equation as well?

F(net(q1,3))= k(q1 *(3.0)(q3))/2(d)^2

= - ( (9.0e^9 N m^2/C^2) * 20e^-6 C * (3.0)(20e^-6 C) )/ 2 (0.11 m)^2 = - 446.3 N
Here the problem is with your denominator. (You had the correct denominator in your first post.)
 
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TSny said:
Here the problem is with your denominator. (You had the correct denominator in your first post.)
You're right. I got +372 N total as my result (which came back correct!)

Thank You!
 
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Great! I now see that when you wrote your equation in the first post, the denominator of the second force should have been written (2d)2 rather than 2d2. But you had the correct numerical value for the denominator.
 
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TSny said:
Great! I now see that when you wrote your equation in the first post, the denominator of the second force should have been written (2d)2 rather than 2d2. But you had the correct numerical value for the denominator.
i was wondering why my initial numbers were looking correct but still getting the wrong result.
 

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