What Is the Normal Component of Acceleration for Curvilinear Motion?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the normal component of acceleration for a particle undergoing curvilinear motion, given a specific function relating the coordinates x and y. The context includes the use of derivatives to find velocity and acceleration components at a particular position.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the normal component of acceleration, with one individual expressing confidence in their approach but seeking feedback on potential errors. Another participant suggests simplifying the problem by focusing on vector expressions for unit tangent and normal vectors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback and suggestions for improvement. One participant has identified a mistake in their calculations and is considering a new approach based on the dot product of vectors. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance has been offered to help clarify the problem.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of working with angles and vector components in their calculations, indicating that assumptions about the relationships between the variables may be under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


Given, y2 = 9x3 + 6x, where x and y are in metres and y is positive.
What is the normal component of the acceleration when x= 3m, [tex]\dot{x}[/tex] = 7ms-1 and [tex]\ddot{x}[/tex] = 8 ms-2?

Homework Equations


V = Vxi + Vyj
Vx = [tex]\dot{x}[/tex]
Vy = [tex]\dot{y}[/tex]

a = axi + ayj
ax = [tex]\ddot{x}[/tex]
ay = [tex]\ddot{y}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


I was fairly confident that my following attempt would yield the correct solution, however it did not. I still fail to see any problems with my attempt, so I thought I'd post it. Any feedback on my work would be greatly appreciated.

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Anyone have any ideas?
 
Hmmm... it's difficult to spot the error in your calculations, but you might have an easier time if you don't mess about with too many angles...

Everything up to and including your calculation of [itex]\theta[/itex] looks correct to me. From that point, you should be able to basically look at diagram and read off the vector expression for the unit tangent and unit normal; [itex]\textbf{T}=\cos\theta\textbf{i}+\sin\theta\textbf{j}[/itex] and [itex]\textbf{N}=\cos(\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta)\textbf{i}-\sin(\frac{\pi}{2}-\theta)\textbf{j}=\sin\theta\textbf{i}-\cos\theta\textbf{j}[/itex]...The advantage of expressing the unit normal like this is that once you calculate [itex]\textbf{a}=\ddot{x}\textbf{i}+\ddot{y}\textbf{j}[/itex], all you need to do to find its normal component is take the dot product [itex]a_N=\textbf{a}\cdot\textbf{N}[/itex].
 
Thanks for the reply. I have found a mistake in my calculation of a, more specifically the second order time derivative of y. I agree, when you start to work with these angles it can get a tad confusing, so I'll try your dot product suggestion. I should be on the right track now, I'll post back if I have any troubles, thanks for your help.
 

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