What is the optimal position for a third charge to achieve a net force of zero?

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The problem involves determining the optimal position for a third charge in a system with two existing charges, 2Q at the origin and -Q at x = 1m, such that the net force on the third charge is zero. The context is electrostatics.

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  • Participants discuss the placement of the third charge and its implications on the net force, with some attempting to derive equations based on the forces involved. Questions arise regarding the nature of the third charge and its effect on the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants proposing different distances for the third charge and questioning the assumptions about its charge type. Some guidance has been offered regarding the equations to consider, but no consensus has been reached on the correct position.

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There is uncertainty regarding the charge type of the third charge and how that affects the calculations. Participants are encouraged to show their work in detail, indicating a focus on understanding the underlying principles rather than simply finding a solution.

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Homework Statement


. A charge 2Q is located at the origin while a second charge -Q is located at x = 1m. Find the position x where a third charge should be placed so that the net force on this charge is zero?

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I know that the charge must be placed further away from the origin than -Q and net force of 0=k*2Q*Q3/(r1)2 + k*-Q*Q3/(r2)2
where
k=8.99x109
r1=distance from 2Q to Q3
r2= distance from -Q to Q3

and also r1=r2+1m

Thanks for any help
 
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quick question, I have tried again, does the distance between the origin and the third charge equal 3.41m
 
Are you to assume that the third charge is also a -Q?
In that case, letting x denote the position of the third charge, your guiding equation simplifies to:
## 0 = \frac{-2Q^2}{(x^2)} + \frac{Q^2}{(1-x)^2}##
 
RUber said:
Are you to assume that the third charge is also a -Q?
In that case, letting x denote the position of the third charge, your guiding equation simplifies to:
## 0 = \frac{-2Q^2}{(x^2)} + \frac{Q^2}{(1-x)^2}##

I don't really know.

by solving that equation does that mean x=~2.41m?
 
max1995 said:
quick question, I have tried again, does the distance between the origin and the third charge equal 1.41m
max1995 said:
quick question, I have tried again, does the distance between the origin and the third charge equal 3.41m
That is correct for the distance of the third charge from the origin. But show your work in detail.
 
That (2.41) doesn't seem to solve the equation. I get about 1 instead of zero when I plug that in. 3.41 is good.
 
RUber said:
Are you to assume that the third charge is also a -Q?
In that case, letting x denote the position of the third charge, your guiding equation simplifies to:
## 0 = \frac{-2Q^2}{(x^2)} + \frac{Q^2}{(1-x)^2}##
No need to assume anything about the third charge.
 
ehild said:
No need to assume anything about the third charge.
Got it. It can factor out just like k.
Thanks.
 
Thank you all very much :)
 

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