What is the particle's distance from the origin

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The problem involves determining the distance of a particle from the origin based on its position function, which is given as a vector in two dimensions. The specific times of interest are t_1 = 2.6 seconds and t_2 = 6.2 seconds. Additionally, the problem seeks to find the particle's speed at these times.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the particle's distance from the origin using the provided position function. There are attempts to derive the speed from the position function by taking its derivative. Some participants express uncertainty about their calculations and seek clarification on the derivative process.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the correctness of their approaches. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the derivative of the position vector and the resulting velocity vector. Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the derivative process without reaching a consensus.

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The position of a particle as a function of time is given by r = (6.50 ihat + 3.10 jhat)t^2 , where t is in seconds.

What is the particle's distance from the origin at t_1 = 2.6 seconds?
What is the particle's distance from the origin at t_2 = 6.2 seconds?

What is the particle's speed at t = 2.6 seconds?
What is the particle's speed at t = 6.2 seconds?

I know that at t = 0 seconds the particle is 0 meters away and has a speed of 0 m/.

How do I go about solving for the other questions?
 
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Well I figured out that the magnitude of the vector r = (6.5+3.1)t^2 meters is 7.20.

Therefore I solved t = 2.6s... 7.2 x 2.6^2 = 48.7 meters and t = 6.2 s... 7.2 x 6.2^2 = 276.8 meters.

But now I am not sure of how to solve for the particle's speed?

Any help would be great.

Thanks
 
TonkaQD4 said:
Well I figured out that the magnitude of the vector r = (6.5+3.1)t^2 meters is 7.20t^2[/color].
You forgot to write a [itex]t^2[/itex] after the number, but I think you did it correct as you get the correct answer.

In one dimension, if the position of the particle is given by x(t), the velocity is given by x'(t). The same is true for (in this case) two dimensions: the derivative of the vector r(t) will give you the velocity vector v(t) = r'(t).
 
So r'(t) = v(t)

I am not getting the right answer so maybe I am doing something wrong when taking the derivative..

r'(t) = 2(6.5+3.1)t or 19.2t Correct?
 
No, the derivative is again a vector. It's not a number. If [itex]r(t) = (x(t), y(t), z(t)[/itex] in three dimensions, where x, y and z are just functions of t (the components of the vector), then [itex]r'(t) = (x'(t), y'(t), z'(t))[/itex] - the components are the derivatives of the original vector.
In this case [itex]r(t) = \left( 6.50 t^2 \hat \i + 3.10 t^2 \hat \j \right)[/itex]. The derivative is then
[tex]r'(t) = \left( \frac{d}{dt} 6.50 t^2 \hat \i + \frac{d}{dt} 3.10 t^2 \hat \j \right)<br /> = \left( 2 \times 6.50 t \hat \i + 2 \times 3.10 t \hat \j \right),[/tex]
which you can write as
[tex]r'(t) = (6.50 \hat \i + 3.10 \hat \j) 2 t[/tex].

I made the attached (very ugly!) image to show what I mean. The v(t) vector is supposed to be tangent to the black path of the object.
 

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TonkaQD4, did you get the correct answer using that^ equation? If so what is it because I can't seem to get it.
 
Hi Becca.

Can you
a) not revive an old thread (the last post was almost 4 years ago)?
b) show some of your work? The answer is quite straightforward, so if you don't get it, it's most likely an algebraic error somewhere.
 

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