What Is the Period of This Particle's Motion in the Given Oscillator Potential?

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a particle in a one-dimensional potential defined by the equation V(x) = -k/(a-x) - k/(a+x), where the particle is influenced by two like charges. Participants are exploring the equations of motion and the implications for the particle's oscillatory behavior.

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of the equations of motion and the integration process leading to a relationship between position and time. There are questions about the nature of the motion, with some suggesting that the presence of an arcsin term indicates oscillatory behavior, while others express confusion over numerical results suggesting linear motion.

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There is ongoing exploration of the equations and their implications, with some participants providing corrections and alternative formulations. While there is no consensus on the nature of the motion, guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the mathematical results.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, and there are indications of potential errors in earlier calculations. The discussion includes attempts to reconcile numerical results with theoretical expectations.

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Hi Everyone,

I think I've solved the equations of motion for a particle in this one-dimensional potential -

V(x) = -k/(a-x) - k/(a+x) with |x| < a, a is real +ve, x is real.
K is a constant of suitable dimension.
It's a charge between two like charges with separation 2*a.

I start with the force equation

m*x'' = -4*a*k*x / (a^2 - x^2)^2
(Using ' to indicate differentiation wrt time)

I can integrate this to get

m*x' = sqrt(2*k*a)/sqrt(a^2 - x^2)

This ought to be textbook example, can anyone point me to an authoritative solution or come up with x ?
 
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I get the separable ODE
[tex]\frac{dx}{dt}=\sqrt{\frac{4ak}{m}}\frac{1}{\sqrt{a^{2}-x^{2}}}[/tex]

Daniel.
 
Thanks, Dextercioby.

We agree to a factor of sqrt(2). With some help I got

[tex]t + C =\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{ 2ak}( x\sqrt{a^2 - x^2} + arcsin( x) )[/tex]

for the relation between x and t. Doing some numerical work this looks
like a straight line, and not an oscillation.
 
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I would suggest that you try your numerical calculation again. The arcsin(s) term would indicate that there should definitely be oscillations.
 
I agree. Obviously, without the x*sqrt(a^2-x^2) term it's a sine wave.
I start with x=a/2 at t=0 which gives me k. The calculation gives the correct
x at t=0, then x falls linearly as t increases. Could be something wrong with some scaling.
 
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I think I've solved the equations of motion for a particle in this one-dimensional potential -

[tex]V(x)=\frac{-k}{a-x}-\frac{k}{a+x}[/tex]
with |x| < a, a is real +ve, x is real.
K is a constant of suitable dimension.
It's a charge between two like charges with separation 2a.

I start with the force equation

[tex]m\frac{d^2x}{dt^2} = -4akx / (a^2 - x^2)^2}[/tex]

I can integrate this to get

[tex]m\frac{dx}{dt} = \sqrt{2ka}/\sqrt{a^2 - x^2}[/tex]

This ought to be textbook example, can anyone point me to an authoritative solution or come up with x ?
 
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Sorry to necro-post, I made are errors in the above which I can now correct.

This equation is correct ( thanks Dan )

[tex]\frac{dx}{dt}=\sqrt{\frac{4ak}{m}}\frac{1}{\sqrt{a ^2-x^2}}[/tex]

and has solution

[tex]t + C = \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{m}{4ak}\right)^\frac{1}{2}\left[x(a^2-x^2)^\frac{1}{2} - a^2cosh^{-1}(\frac{x}{a})\right][/tex]

If we choose coords so when x=0, t=0 then

[tex]C = -\frac{a^2}{2}\left(\frac{m}{4ak}\right)^\frac{1}{2}[/tex]

Not simple harmonic motion. How do I calculate ( guess ?) the period ?
 

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