What is the physical meaning for time?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physical meaning of time, exploring its relationship with Earth's rotation, its existence independent of celestial movements, and its conceptual nature. Participants engage in theoretical reasoning, philosophical implications, and definitions of time as a dimension.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that time is intrinsically linked to Earth's rotation and orbital movements, questioning its existence without these phenomena.
  • Others argue that time exists independently of day and night, using hypothetical scenarios to illustrate that regret and the desire to reverse actions imply a perception of time's passage.
  • One participant posits that time is a conceptual framework for understanding the sequence of events, asserting that it lacks physical attributes but is a consequence of matter's interactions.
  • Another viewpoint presents time as a dimension similar to spatial dimensions, asserting that it does not require Earth's rotation to exist, and emphasizes the definition of time as a fundamental aspect of the universe.
  • Participants reference the scientific definition of a second, linking it to atomic transitions, to ground their arguments in measurable terms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion features multiple competing views on the nature of time, with no consensus reached regarding its fundamental meaning or existence independent of celestial mechanics.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about the relationship between time and physical phenomena, and there are unresolved questions regarding the implications of defining time in different contexts.

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hi
i know that day is rotation of Earth about it axis
and year is rotation of Earth about the sun , the time connected with rotation
my question is when remove the rotation we don t get the time?
so don t be found the time?
 
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i think day and night ... months days and hours is like a scale for time ...but i say that time exist like an example let's say we have no night we have anly days ... if we do something and after an hour we regret it ...here we wis hthat time can get back ...but it won't ...it do not have relation with day or night
 
Time is an attempt at placing objectivity on our perception of the way the universe appears to progress from one event to another, it is not entirely abritrary, and is based on the rotation and passage of the Earth about it's sun. It is in essence entirely a concept and has no physical attribute except when it is placed in abstraction. So for example I might grow old(physical abstraction) And time may pass, but what is passing is not a physical particle or anything it's just a consequence of the way matter appears to interact in the universe and proceed to act, and we base the consequences of this action in reality by callling it time.

EDIT: you could call time lubs, quorks and fligs and have each relative to the rotation of two binary stars and it would not in anyway effect how time progresses, time just is time.

there are things that will change the progression of time as perceived by an observer and someone else, but that's not what you asked :smile:
 
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so was i right?by my meaning for time
 
moe_3_moe said:
so was i right?by my meaning for time

I'm not sure what you were saying, but if it's the same as what I said then yes :smile: To be honest saying anything more than what I just said will put this thread into the realms of philosophy. Check out that sub section if you want a logical analysis of time without scientific rigor.
 
feynman60 said:
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hi
i know that day is rotation of Earth about it axis
and year is rotation of Earth about the sun , the time connected with rotation
my question is when remove the rotation we don t get the time?
so don t be found the time?


Consider this, the unit of time is the second. A second is defined as the duration of 9,192,631,770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium-133 atom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second#International_second
 
Time is another dimension besides length, width, and height, which allows you to define the position of an event/object in the universe.

Days, minutes, seconds, etc. are units of time, just as meters and inches are units of length. When the King died, "length" didn't cease to exist because there was no longer a foot with which to measure it, and time doesn't require the Earth's rotation to exist either.

Ranger posted the units of time, here's the definition of time itself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time
There are two distinct views on the meaning of time. One view is that time is part of the fundamental structure of the universe, a dimension in which events occur in sequence.
 

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