What is the polynomial obtained by evaluating the determinant of a matrix?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating the determinant of a 3x3 matrix expressed in terms of a variable x. Participants are asked to express their findings as a polynomial in x.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants suggest using cofactor expansion, particularly from rows or columns with zeros. There are requests for the original poster to show their work to facilitate more specific guidance. Some participants express amusement or confusion regarding the responses given.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exchange where participants are encouraging the original poster to provide their calculations. Some have attempted to provide polynomial forms, but there are indications of errors in those attempts. The discussion is active, with multiple interpretations of the determinant being explored.

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Participants emphasize the importance of showing work to understand where difficulties lie. There are hints of miscalculations in the polynomial expressions provided, and some participants are questioning the accuracy of the terms used in the determinant evaluation.

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Evaluate the following determinant. Write your answer as a polynomial in x.

[tex]\begin{array}{|lcr|}a-x&b&c\\1&-x&0\\0&1&-x\end{array}[/tex]


Please help me! thanks.
 
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Just find the determinant as usual. A cofactor expansion from one of the rows or columns containing a zero is probably the easiest way.
 
You do realize, don't you, that you are expected to show us what you have tried so we can suggest changes? What durt suggested is very general but without knowing where you are having trouble we can't be more specific. It won't help you for someone else to do it for you.

(I confess that I find the answer amusing!)
 
clever problem :smile:
 
The answer is [tex]-x^3+ax^2+(b-a)x-a+c[/tex]
 
not quite :smile:
 
Show us the work! How did you get that wrong answer?
 
interested_learner said:
Show us the work! How did you get that wrong answer?

:eek:

[tex]-x^3+ax^2+bx+c[/tex]
 
What part of "Show us the work! How did you get that wrong answer?" did you not understand?
 
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HallsofIvy said:
What part of "Show us the work! How did you get that wrong answer?" did you not understand?

:bugeye: I am sorry.


[tex](a-x)(x*x-1)-1(-bx-c)+0\\=ax^2-a-x^3+x+bx+c\\=-x^3+ax^2-(a-b)x-a+c[/tex]
 
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Bob said:
:bugeye: I am sorry.


[tex](a-x)(x*x-1)-1(-bx-c)+0\\=ax^2-a-x^3+x+bx+c\\=-x^3+ax^2-(a-b)x-a+c[/tex]

Recheck your first term, (a-x)(x*x-1) isn't quite right.
 
  • #12
Bob said:
:bugeye: I am sorry.


[tex](a-x)(x*x-1)-1(-bx-c)+0\\=ax^2-a-x^3+x+bx+c\\=-x^3+ax^2-(a-b)x-a+c[/tex]
Okay, you are expanding by the first column:
[tex](a-x)\left|\begin{array}{cc}-x & 0 \\1 & -x\end{array}\right|- (1)\left|\begin{array}{cc}b & c \\ 1 & -x\end{array}\right|[/tex]
As dleet said, check that first number. 0*1 is not 1!
 

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