What is the potential of HHO as a new energy source?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential of HHO (a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen) as a new energy source, particularly focusing on claims made by Denny Klein regarding its energy output and the process of converting water into HHO. Participants explore the feasibility, existing technology, and implications of using HHO for energy applications.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the claims of significant energy output from HHO, suggesting it may be too good to be true.
  • One participant notes that the process of splitting water into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity is not new and references historical incidents involving hydrogen.
  • Another participant questions whether the energy output from HHO is exceptional compared to existing technologies.
  • It is mentioned that oxy-hydrogen torches are commonly used and have specific applications, such as in jewelry work, due to their high temperature and controllability.
  • There is curiosity about the electricity source required for producing HHO, with a mention that a DC power supply is necessary for water splitting.
  • One participant outright dismisses the concept of HHO as a hoax, questioning the validity of its claims and definitions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are multiple competing views regarding the validity and potential of HHO as an energy source, with some expressing skepticism and others showing interest in its applications.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity on the energy input versus output in the process of generating HHO, as well as the practical challenges associated with handling hydrogen and oxygen.

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Denny Klein has (allegedly) discovered a way to turn H2O into HHO with very considerable energy output. I think this is a different process to the other 'salt water energy' thread so i'll start a new one here. It does look impressively powerful, in just three seconds he turns a large ball of metal into glowing liquid state. When he burns something with it, afterwards it turns straight back to water!, which is the part i find amazing about it. I'm not sure what to think, seems to good to be true.
 
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He splits water into H2 and O2 with electricty and then burns them in a torch.
Not exactly new, for prior art on burning H2 + O2 see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_disaster

The problem is that it takes a lot more electricity to split the water than you get back and both H2 and O2 are tricky to handle.
 
so this sort of energy output is not exceptional then?
 
Nope oxy-hydrogen torches are quite common - they are hotter than oxy-acetylene and are easier to cut some steels with because the oxygen helps a slag form.

They tend to get used for small scale jewellery work because they are easy to control and the oxygen burns off some impurities as you work.
 
looks pretty impressive though, i wouldn't mind a tool in my garage like that!

Is the electricity required for this supplied by typical mains power then? it doesn't mention how the electricity to produce this effect is produced i don't think.
 
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looks pretty impressive though, i wouldn't mind a tool in my garage like that!

Is the electricity required for this supplied by typical mains power then? it doesn't mention how the electricity to produce this effect is produced i don't think.

In order to split water you need a DC power supply.
 
This is a hoax. Consider what HHO could possibly be. It is a molecule with two hydrogens and one oxygen. There is another name for that and another way of writing it...
 

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