What is the Power Delivered by the Person Pulling the Rope?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the power delivered by a person pulling a rope to lift a box. The box has a mass of 6.1 kg and is lifted at both constant speed and constant acceleration. Participants are exploring the implications of these conditions on the calculation of power.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve for power in two scenarios: lifting at constant speed and lifting with acceleration. They express confusion about how to incorporate time and height into the average power calculation.
  • Some participants suggest using kinematic equations to find acceleration and velocity, while others question whether to include gravitational force in the calculations.
  • There is discussion about the distinction between net force and the actual force exerted by the person on the rope.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various approaches to find the necessary values for power calculation. There is a recognition of the need to consider both gravitational force and the force required for acceleration, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding average velocity and the relationship between force exerted and the net force acting on the box. The original poster has provided specific values for time and height, which are central to the calculations but have not yet been fully resolved in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


A 6.1-kg box is being lifted by means of a light rope that is threaded through a single, light, frictionless pulley that is attached to the ceiling.

(a) If the box is being lifted at a constant speed of 2.0 m/s, what is the power delivered by the person pulling on the rope?

(b) If the box is lifted, at constant acceleration, from rest on the floor to a height of 1.4 m above the floor in 0.42 s, what average power is delivered by the person pulling on the rope?


Homework Equations


P = F * v
KE = .5mv^2
W = F * distance
W = KE

The Attempt at a Solution


I've answered the first problem, getting .120 kW as an answer. But I'm having trouble with the (b), and maybe the concept of average power is throwing me off. I don't know what to do with the time given (0.42 s) and the height (1.4 m)...I know power is KE/T, but I don't know what the velocity is in KE since no acceleration was given. Thanks for your help! Much appreciated.
 
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If the box is lifted at constant acceleration from rest, you can find the acceleration using the kinematic equation for x(t).
 
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OK, so using the kinematic equation I've found the acceleration to be 15.87 m/s^2...do I use another kinematic equation to find a velocity, and use F=ma with the mass of the box (6.1kg) and my acceleration (15.87) to get a force of 96.81N, then multiply that by the velocity for power? Or do I have to consider the force of gravity too, and subtract that force from the 96.81N...
 
You need to consider the force of gravity. F = ma gives you the net force not the force the person is exerting on the box. Once you find the force exerted by the person, you need to multiply by the average velocity to get average power.
 
P=Fv=ma(vavg)
SOLVE FOR a:
h=\frac{1}{2}at2

PLUG IN a and SOLVE FOR vavg (which is v/2):
v2=2ah​
 
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Rubber Band said:
P=Fv=ma(vavg)


SOLVE FOR a:
h=\frac{1}{2}at2

PLUG IN a and SOLVE FOR vavg (which is v/2):
v2=2ah​


The power that Rubber Band proposes as the answer is not the power delivered by the person. It is the power delivered by the net force. The person has to deliver enough power to do two things, overcome gravity and accelerate the box. The tension in the rope is equal and opposite to the force the person exerts. Therefore, the power delivered by the rope is the same as the tension. When a rope accelerates a bucket up (or down), the tension is not ma.
 

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