What is the Probability of Events A and B Occurring Simultaneously?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of the intersection of two events, A and B, given their individual probabilities and the probability of their union excluding the intersection. The subject area is probability theory.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the probabilities of events A and B, particularly focusing on the intersection. Some participants question the initial reasoning regarding the probabilities and suggest using a simplified scenario to clarify the concepts. Others provide a formulaic approach to relate the probabilities of the union and intersection of the events.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing different perspectives on how to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of probability rules, and there is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the probabilities involved.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the given probabilities and the requirement to find the intersection without additional information about the total number of outcomes. There is a focus on ensuring clarity in definitions and assumptions related to the events.

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Events A and B are events such that

P(A) = 1/2
P(B) = 1/4
P(A or B but not both) = 1/3.

Find P(A intersect B)

so far what i have in mind is that , for A to happens, it need to be 1/3 x 1/2 which is 1/6
and for B to happens, it need to be 1/4 x 1/3 which is 1/12. Then I'm stuck here, not sure how should i find the intersect point. Please help.
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by "for A to happens, it need to be 1/3 x 1/2". Do you mean the probability that A happens is 1/6? No, you have already said that the probability that A happens is 1/2 alone.

Think about this simplified scenario: A contains 6 objects, 2 of which are also in B, and B contains 5 objects. |A|= 6, |B|= 5, |A intersect B|= 2. How many objects are in A union B (in "A or B")? If we just add |A|+ |B|= 11, that's two large because we are counting objects in A intersect B twice, once in A and once in B. There are |A|+ |B|- |A intersect B|= 6+ 5- 2= 9 objects in A union B. That's were we get the rule P(A union B)= P(A)+ P(B)- P(A intersect B). Now, to get the number of objects in "A or B but not both" we just subtract A intersect B again: 9- 2= 7.
Yes, that is correct: there are 6- 2= 4 objects in "A but not B", 5- 2= 3 objects in "B but not A" and so 4+ 3= 7 objects in A or B but not Both. The number of objects in A or B but not Both is |A|+ |B|- 2|A intersect B|.

Converting that to probability requires only dividing through by the total number of objects so: P(A or B but not both)= P(A)+ P(B)- 2P(A intersect B).

P(A or B but not both)= 1/3= 1/2+ 1/4- 2P(A intersect B).

Solve for P(A intersect B).
 
crays said:
Events A and B are events such that

P(A) = 1/2
P(B) = 1/4
P(A or B but not both) = 1/3.

Find P(A intersect B)
P(A or B but not both) = P(A or B) - P(A and B)
P(A or B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A and B)
P(A or B) - P(A and B) = P(A) + P(B) - 2P(A and B)

I think you can continue from here.
 

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