What is the problem with Log2?

  • Thread starter Thread starter asif zaidi
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary
The discussion centers on the confusion surrounding the calculation of log(2) using the upper sum method for the function f(x) = 1/x. The original poster mistakenly used the common logarithm instead of the natural logarithm, leading to an incorrect approximation. Clarification was provided that in many educational settings, "log" refers to the common logarithm (base 10), while "ln" denotes the natural logarithm (base e). The integration of 1/x indeed results in the natural logarithm, which resolves the misunderstanding. This highlights the importance of notation consistency in mathematics education.
asif zaidi
Messages
56
Reaction score
0
Problem statement

Find an approximate value for log(2) by subdividing the interval [1,2] into sub-intervals of length 1/n and using this subdivision to compute the upper sum for the function f(x)=1/x. Compute the upper sum for n=1,2,...,10.

My solution
The way I approached this is as follows

Use the definition of integral: as n -> inf (\sum f(ci)*partition length)

a. take a partition of size 0.1 (as I have 10 points from 1-2)
b. find f(1.0) + f(1.1) + ... f(1.9) = 1/1 + 1/1.1 + 1/1.2 + ... 1/1.9 = 7.185
c. Multiply 7.185*0.1 = 0.7185

Obviously log2 = 0.301 ~= 0.7185/2. <--- Error.


To see if my understanding of integrals is right, I used same method for f(x) =x^2 from [1,2] and came up with the right answer. So what am I doing wrong with 1/x.


Thanks

Asif
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Because you hit the log button instead of the ln button on your calculator :-p
 
You've hit an unfortunate boundary in math notation! In "elementary" course (say introductory calculus and below) typically "log" is used for the common log (base 10) and "ln" is used for the natural logarithm. Most calculators use "log" for common logarithm and "ln" for natural logarithm. But in higher level courses common logarithm is never used and "log" is used for the natural logarithm.

The function you get by integrating 1/x is the natural logarithm.
 
OK - thanks to both.
That explains it and my answer matches.
 
HallsofIvy said:
You've hit an unfortunate boundary in math notation! In "elementary" course (say introductory calculus and below) typically "log" is used for the common log (base 10) and "ln" is used for the natural logarithm. Most calculators use "log" for common logarithm and "ln" for natural logarithm. But in higher level courses common logarithm is never used and "log" is used for the natural logarithm.

The function you get by integrating 1/x is the natural logarithm.

Well, in my school, we are taught that 'ln' is natural logarithm, 'lg' is decimal logarithm (base 10) and 'log' is logarithm with any other base.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

Similar threads

  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K