What is the pronounciation of this letter in english?

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The discussion centers around the pronunciation and naming of the derivative operator symbol, commonly represented as ∂, in English. Participants explore various terms used to refer to this symbol, including its classification as a letter or symbol, and its pronunciation in different contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants refer to the symbol ∂ as "del" or "partial," while others argue that "del" is more accurately associated with the vector operator "nabla."
  • One participant mentions that they have heard the symbol referred to as "curly d" and notes that it is not an English letter but a special symbol.
  • Several participants express uncertainty about the correct pronunciation, with variations including "dabba," "d," "dau," and "partial."
  • There is mention of potential confusion when using "dee" to refer to the symbol, as it may be interpreted as the ordinary derivative instead of a partial derivative.
  • Some participants state that they generally say "partial of f with respect to x" when discussing the derivative.
  • One participant notes that the cursive form of the Cyrillic letter Д resembles ∂, adding to the confusion regarding its classification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the pronunciation of the symbol ∂, with multiple competing views and interpretations presented throughout the discussion.

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There are references to different pronunciations and usages that may depend on regional or educational backgrounds, highlighting the variability in terminology and understanding among participants.

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Hello
My native language is not English an i have a noob! question about the pronounciation of the derivative operator letter in English and how we write its name in English, i have attached the picture of operator.
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It's called "del" or "partial", although in "colloquial" usage people often say "d" when they mean "del".
 
First, it is not a "letter" in the English alphabet. It is a special symbol. I, myself, have never heard it called "del". To me "del" is the vector operator, "nabla", \nabla. If f(x, y, z) is a real valued function of x, y, and z (Cartesian coordinates) then "del f" (also called "grad f") is the vector function
\nabla f= \frac{\partial f}{\partial x}\vec{i}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}\vec{j}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial z}\vec{k}
Similarly, I have heard "div v" called "del dot v" and "curl v" called "del cross v" for vector function v, though I would not consider any of those as formal as "grad", "div", or "curl".

I have, though, heard \partial called "curly d". The LaTex code for it is "\partial".
 
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Hello gholamghar! :smile:

Yes, ∂ isn't an English letter or even a Greek letter like ∑ or π, it's just a symbol.

I believe a lot of people pronounce it "dabba", but I just pronounce it "d" (though I call it "curly d"). :biggrin:

(and I also have never heard it pronounced "del", that's for ∇)
 
I generally say "partial of f with respect to x", if I want to talk about ∂f/∂x. The symbol "∂" never appears by itself, so I have never worried about what to call it.
 
HallsofIvy said:
I, myself, have never heard it called "del". To me "del" is the vector operator, "nabla", \nabla.

Whoops, you are so right.
I meant to say "dau" ([dow]).
* deeply ashamed *
 
∂ is a letter of Cyrillic alphabet, right? I remember my teacher said it in a lesson.
Anyway, I read:
\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}
as "de" f over "de" x
 
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Several of my lecturers pronounce it "del." Others use "del" to refer to the gradient operator, as has been mentioned, which can be confusing. Ways I have heard it pronounced from educated people:

Del,
Dau,
D,
Partial.
 
Mathitalian said:
∂ is a letter of Cyrillic alphabet, right?
Sort of. In Russian, the cursive form of lower case Д is sometimes written as ∂, and sometimes as g. That's always been a little confusing to me. This wike article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrillic_alphabet, has some good information.
Mathitalian said:
I remember my teacher said it in a lesson.
Anyway, I read:
\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}
as "de" f over "de" x
 
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To my knowledge, we say "partial". That's what I've always heard and was told a while ago.
 
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Mathitalian said:
∂ is a letter of Cyrillic alphabet, right? I remember my teacher said it in a lesson.
Anyway, I read:
\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}
as "de" f over "de" x

If you say "dee" f over "dee" x, someone listening would likely interpret this as the ordinary derivative instead of a partial derivative. There have been a number of times where I was helping someone with calculus over the phone. In such cases you have to be more clear than when you can see the work.
discrete* said:
To my knowledge, we say "partial". That's what I've always heard and was told a while ago.
Yeah, me, too. I always pronounce this as "partial of f with respect to x."
 
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Mark44 said:
If you say "dee" f over "dee" x, someone listening would likely interpret this as the ordinary derivative instead of a partial derivative. There have been a number of times where I was helping someone with calculus over the phone. In such cases you have to be more clear than when you can see the work.

Yes you're right. Here, we use the name of \partial, that is dɛ in IPA.
 
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Yes, I always just pronounce it 'partial', and have never heard anyone else do differently. This makes sense even when you use shorthand:
\partial_x = \frac{\partial}{\partial x}

Read as, obviously, partial x. Insert "of" if when operating on something you think it sounds weird to omit it.
 

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