What is the range of y=(3x-1)/(2x^2+x-6)?

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The discussion revolves around finding the range of the function y = (3x-1)/(2x^2 + x - 6). Participants are exploring various methods, including calculus and algebraic analysis, to determine the behavior of the function and its range.

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  • The original poster attempts to use calculus, specifically the quotient rule, to find critical points but encounters imaginary numbers, leading to confusion about the implications. Some participants suggest that calculus may not be necessary for this problem and point out the locations of vertical and horizontal asymptotes instead.

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There is a mix of opinions on the necessity of calculus for solving the problem. Some participants have provided insights into the behavior of the function around critical points and asymptotes, while others express uncertainty about the results obtained through calculus. The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of imaginary numbers in their calculations and the nature of vertical asymptotes at specific values. There is also mention of constraints related to homework rules and the use of graphing calculators.

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Homework Statement



Find the range of

y = (3x-1)/(2x^2 + x - 6)

I was going to take the derivative of the numerator and denomenator and then use the quotent rule to find the derivative of the function and find the critical values but I ran into the imaginary number during the proess and am woundering if I did nothing wrong... if I did nothing wrong then what exactly does this mean?

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y = (3x-1)/(2x^2 + x - 6) = h(x)
f(x) = (3x-1)
g(x)= 2x^2 + x - 6

dy/dx f(x) = ( 3(x + a) -1 -3x + 1 ) / a = (3x + 3a -1 - 3x +1)/a = (3a)/a = 3

dy/dx f(g) = ( 2(x + a)^2 + x + a - 6 -2x^2 -x +6)/a = (2(x^2 + a^2 + 2ax) + a -2x^2)/a = (2x^2 + 2a^2 + 4ax + a -2x^2)/a = (2a^2 + 4ax +a)/a = 2a + 4x + 1 = 4x + 1

dy/dx h(x) = ( (2x^2 + x -6)3-(3x - 1)(4x +1) )/ (2x^2 + x - 6)^2 = ( 6x^2 + 3x - 18 -(12x^2 + 3x - 4x -1) )/(2x^2 + x - 6)^2 = ( 6x^2 + 3x - 18 -(12x^2 -x - 1) )/(2x^2 + x - 6)^2 = ( 6x^2 + 3x - 18 -12x^2 + x + 1)/(2x^2 + x - 6)^2 = ( -6x^2 + 4x -17)/(2x^2 + x - 6)^2

At this point I proceded by setting the numerator to zero and solving which is were I got stuck at least I think I don't see what I have done any where even while typing this thing up charecter by charecter, normally this is a good way to catch mistakes but I have found nothing wrong with my work...

-6x^2 + 4x -17 = 0

(-4 +/- sqrt( 4^2 - 4(-6)(-17) ) )/(2(-6)) = -4/-12 +/- (1/-12)sqrt( 4 - (-6)(-17) ) = 1/3 +/- (-1/6)sqrt(2(2 - (-3)(-17)) = 1/3 +/- (-1/6)sqrt(2(2-51)) = 1/3 +/- (-1/6)sqrt(2(-47) = 1/3 +/- (-7/6)sqrt(-2) = 1/3 +/- (-7i/6)sqrt(2)

Is this correct or did I just simply do something wrong here? Don't see were or how...
 
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It's really hard to follow, especially when you're taking the derivative.

Simply use the quotient rule?

Anyway, if you're running into imaginary numbers when setting the derivative to zero means the derivative doesn't equal zero anywhere which means the function doesn't have any turning points!
 
I cannot see any reason to use Calculus at all here. The numerator is 0 only at x= 1/3, the denominator is 0 at x= -2 and x= 3/2. There are vertical asymptotes at x= -2 and x= 3/2. The horizontal asympote is y= 0. For x< -2, each factor is negative and, since there are 3 factors, the entire fraction is negative. The value of y goes to negative infinity as x goes to -2 from below.

For x between -2 and 1/3, x+ 2 is positive but the other two factors are still negative so the fraction is positive. y goes to positive infinity as x goes to -2 from above. For x between 1/3 and 3/2, x+ 2 and 3x- 1 are both positive while 2x- 3 is still negative. The fraction is negative and y goes to negative infinity as x goes to 3/2 from above.

That alone is enough to show that y takes on all values between -2 and 3/2 and give the range.
 
SO I put the equation into a derivative calculator and got the same results so there are no turning points? I'm sure that there has to be on no? Thye are there they are just complex correct?
 
HallsofIvy said:
I cannot see any reason to use Calculus at all here. The numerator is 0 only at x= 1/3, the denominator is 0 at x= -2 and x= 3/2. There are vertical asymptotes at x= -2 and x= 3/2. The horizontal asympote is y= 0. For x< -2, each factor is negative and, since there are 3 factors, the entire fraction is negative. The value of y goes to negative infinity as x goes to -2 from below.

For x between -2 and 1/3, x+ 2 is positive but the other two factors are still negative so the fraction is positive. y goes to positive infinity as x goes to -2 from above. For x between 1/3 and 3/2, x+ 2 and 3x- 1 are both positive while 2x- 3 is still negative. The fraction is negative and y goes to negative infinity as x goes to 3/2 from above.

That alone is enough to show that y takes on all values between -2 and 3/2 and give the range.

Well at x = -2 has a well defined value of -.28 there is no asymptote at x=-2 no? and at 3/2 it's about .11570248 there is no vertical asymptote at this value?

Using the calculate max on the graphing calculator I get a turning point at x = .999999894 with a local max of 1/8

so the range is (1/8, -infinity) now how do I do this without a graphing calculator and cheating setting the derivative to zero gave me imaginary number... please help me as I even put the funciton into a derivative calculator and got the same derivative I found... What do I do
 
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It actually crosses and equals one at x=1/3 and becomes positive... the range is not (-infinity, zero)...
 
Well, it doesn't have a well defined value at -2, since the denominator is zero. It is not even a removable singularity, since the numerator is nonzero there. Where did the -.28 came from?!
 
lol no idea sorry about taht but you can you help me find the range pleaes?
 
As x goes to -2, f(x) goes to...?
As x goes to 1/3, f(x) goes to...?
This facts + continuity between -2 and 1/3 give the range immediately.
Good luck!
 
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hmmm so the way I solved using calculus gave me a value that includes I the equation turns around at infinity no? So does that suggest that infinity can be calculated?
 

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