What is the real part of z when given 1/z = 1/R + 1/(iωL)?

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The problem involves finding the real part of a complex impedance z, given the equation 1/z = 1/R + 1/(iωL). The context is within electrical engineering, specifically dealing with complex numbers and impedance in AC circuits.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the rearrangement of the initial equation to isolate z and express concerns about the correctness of the steps taken. There is a focus on the necessity of using a common denominator and the implications of complex conjugates in simplifying the expression.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on how to manipulate the expression to separate the real and imaginary parts. There is recognition of the need to multiply by the complex conjugate to achieve a real denominator, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps.

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Participants note the importance of correctly applying mathematical principles to complex numbers, particularly in the context of electrical engineering. There is an acknowledgment of the initial misunderstanding regarding the rearrangement of the equation.

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Homework Statement


Find the real part of z, given that 1/z = 1/R + 1/(iωL)

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I rearranged to find z, and got that z = R + iωL. So that would make the Re(z)=R, wouldn't it?? It's wrong, but I don't have a clue why!
 
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When you rearranged, you got the wrong result. Can you show working for that please?
(You can't just turn all the fractions upside down.)
 
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Ohhhhh soooo stupid... forgot to multiply the LHS when finding a common denominator.
 
Actually, hang on... here's the rearrangement.

1/z = 1/R + 1/(iwL) Multiply by R:

R/z = 1 + R/(iwL) Multiply by iwL:

RiwL/z = iwL + R

So z = (RiwL) / (iwL + R)?? There's clearly something wrong but I can't see what... Do I need to realize the denominator?
 
whatisreality said:
So z = (RiwL) / (iwL + R)?? ...
That's true, but you're asked to find Re(z). You can use this useful identity that comes up a lot in electrical engineering:
$$
z = \frac{z \overline{z}}{\overline{z}} = \frac{|z|^2}{\overline{z}}
$$
Along with:
$$
\mathrm{Re}\!\left(\frac{1}{\overline{z}}\right) = \mathrm{Re}\!\left(\frac{1}{z}\right)
$$
 
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Yep. Fine so far. You're quite right - what is wrong is that you still can't separate the Re and I am parts.

Miles has put something above (which I don't understand) and if that helps you, great.

For me, the next step is just plain maths, nothing to do with electronics. If you want to separate this expression into Re & Im, you need to have a real denominator and the standard maths 'trick' is to multiply a complex denominator by its complex conjugate.

Every complex number has a conjugate and when you multiply it by the conjugate you get a real number - the i's disappear.
Any fraction can be multiplied by 1 (or x/x since anything divided by itself is 1), so you multiply your fraction by conjugate/conjugate
Now the conjugate is dead simple: conjugate of A + iB is A - iB or conjugate of C - iD is C + iD (negate the I am part)
So you need to multiply your z expression by (R - iωL ) / ( R - iωL)

And just to complete the maths, remember the difference of two squares,
x2 - y2 = (x-y)(x+y)
So (A + iB)(A - iB) = A2 - (i)2B2
= A2 - (-1)B2
= A2 + B2
 

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