What is the relationship between ln(y) and y for infinite limits on a sequence?

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The discussion revolves around evaluating limits of sequences as they approach infinity, specifically focusing on expressions involving logarithms and trigonometric functions. The original poster seeks guidance on understanding the relationship between ln(y) and y in the context of these limits.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of logarithms to simplify the limit of the sequence involving \(\sqrt[n]{n+1}\) and explore the behavior of sine and cosine in relation to their limits. Questions arise regarding the validity of certain transformations and the implications of applying the natural logarithm to the expression.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants successfully resolving parts of the problem while others continue to seek clarity on the relationship between ln(y) and y. Hints have been provided, and there is an acknowledgment of the need for further exploration of the first limit.

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Well, Hi again. Here I got some limits to infinity that I don't know how to solve. The statement just ask me to calculate those limits, if exists, for the next sequences.

[tex]\displaystyle\lim_{n \to{+}\infty}{(\sqrt[n]{n+1})}[/tex]

[tex]\displaystyle\lim_{n \to{+}\infty}{\displaystyle\frac{\sin(n)}{n+1}}[/tex][tex]\displaystyle\lim_{n \to{+}\infty}{\displaystyle\frac{1-\cos(5n)}{n^2}}[/tex]

I don't pretend that someone solve all of these for me, but I need some orientation on which way to look. I'll be thanked for any help on any of those sequences.

Edit: Deleted the ones that I could solve. Someone gave me some tips, and I could solve some of the limits that I have posted before. As there wasn't any responses to the topic I thought that it was unnecessary to repost giving the advertisement.
 
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Hints: Think about logarithms on the first and think about how big sines and cosines can be on the others.
 
I resolved the trigonometric ones. Thanks for the hints, I'll keep working on the first.

I established on the last two that sine and cosine are between 1 and -1, so both tend to zero.

On the first, is this valid? [tex](\sqrt[n]{n+1})=\displaystyle\frac{log (n+1)}{n}\[/tex]
 
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Telemachus said:
I resolved the trigonometric ones. Thanks for the hints, I'll keep working on the first.

I established on the last two that sine and cosine are between 1 and -1, so both tend to zero.

On the first, is this valid? [tex](\sqrt[n]{n+1})=\displaystyle\frac{log (n+1)}{n}\[/tex]

No, those two quantities aren't equal are they? But you could call

[tex]y = \left({n+1}\right)^{\frac 1 n}[/tex]

and then say

[tex]\ln(y) = \frac{log (n+1)}{n}[/tex]

and work with ln(y).
 
Thanks, I'll remember that, because it looks like the legs of a woman (y) :D

How did you realize that applying the ln to the expression gives the same function?

ln(y) tends to infinite really fast. How do I get the relation between what happens with ln(y) and y?
 
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