What Is the Relationship Between Open Sets and Their Boundaries in Topology?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between open sets and their boundaries in the context of topology. The original poster presents a problem requiring a proof that if a set S is open and its complement Sc is also open, then the boundary of S must be empty.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the definitions of open sets and boundaries, questioning how the properties of S and Sc relate to their boundaries. There are attempts to understand the implications of the boundaries being subsets of each other and how this leads to the conclusion about the emptiness of the boundary.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the definitions involved and how they relate to the problem. There is recognition of the relationship between the boundaries of S and Sc, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the proof or the explanation of why the boundary is empty.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and are attempting to clarify definitions and relationships without providing a complete solution. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the definitions of boundary and open sets.

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Homework Statement


Prove that if S is open and Sc is open then boundary of S must be empty

The Attempt at a Solution


S is open means boundary of S is a subset of Sc
Sc is open means boundary of Sc is a subset of S (By taking complement of both sides from the definition ?)

This means that they have the same boundary?

Don't know how to proceed from here

thanks
 
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Yes, S and S^C always have the same boundary. Show that by quoting the definition of 'boundary'.
 
For all r, B(r,x) intersection S = not empty and B(r,x) intersection S^C = not empty, Ok I see how i got this from definition of boundary for both of them. How do I explain the set is empty?
 
Design said:

Homework Statement


Prove that if S is open and Sc is open then boundary of S must be empty

The Attempt at a Solution


S is open means boundary of S is a subset of Sc
Sc is open means boundary of Sc is a subset of S (By taking complement of both sides from the definition ?)

This means that they have the same boundary?

Don't know how to proceed from here

thanks


I think you've pretty much done it -
S is open means the boundary of S is a subset of Sc, so the boundary is not in S.

Sc is open means boundary of Sc is a subset of S. Since you have shown that the boundary of Sc is equal to the boundary of S, this implies that the boundary of S is a subset of S, but S is open so this cannot be.
 
Design said:
For all r, B(r,x) intersection S = not empty and B(r,x) intersection S^C = not empty, Ok I see how i got this from definition of boundary for both of them. How do I explain the set is empty?

You already did that in the first post if you know boundary of S=boundary of S^C.
 

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