What is the required work to pump water out of a spherical tank?

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The problem involves calculating the work required to pump water out of a spherical tank. The tank has a radius of 3 meters and a height of 1 meter, with gravitational acceleration set at 9.8 m/s².

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the expression for the radius as a function of height and the limits of integration. There are attempts to derive the volume and force expressions for the water slices.

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Some participants have provided corrections regarding the function for radius and the limits of integration. There is ongoing exploration of the correct setup, with multiple interpretations of the variables involved.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the definition of variables, particularly the representation of height and the integration limits. Participants are also addressing the implications of integrating from different reference points within the tank.

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[SOLVED] Work: Spherical Problem

Homework Statement


A tank is full of water. Find the work W required to pump the water out of the spout. (Use 9.8 for g and 3.14 for [PLAIN]http://www.webassign.net/images/pi.gif.[/URL] Round your answer to three significant digits.) W=_________

r=3
h=1
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The Attempt at a Solution


To set up this problem, I started by taking the area of one slice of water to be pi r^{2} multiplied by an infitesimally small height \Delta y to get volume. Then multiply this by the density of water; 1000 kg/m^{3} to get the volume of one slice.

Now I want R as a function of, let's say y. We know the area of a circle is r^{2}2+y^{2}=3^{2}. So r=sqrt(9-y^{2}). Also, the distance for any slice from the top is 7-y.

After this I tried integrating from zero to six of the function 1000*pi*(9-y^{2})*(7-y)*y. This came out to be negative...in fact -36000*pi..

Apparently, that is wrong. Where did I go wrong?

Thanks.
 
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Your expression for R as a function of y is wrong.
 
The above equation was really meant to be r^{2}+y^{2}=3^{2}. I just noticed the typo. Or, are you saying that's wrong?
 
Be careful about what y represents. r= \sqrt{9- y^2} is correct if is the height above the center of the sphere. But in that case, integrating from 0 to 6 is wrong. Integrating from the bottom of the tank to the top takes y from -3 to 3.
 
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I integrated and got 2469600*pi as my answer. My homework checker told me I was wrong. I even rounded to the proper amount of sig figs(3).

Heres what I have:
dA=(9-y^{2})pi
(Multiplied by infitesimally thickness dy)
dV=(9-y^{2})pi dy
(Since d=mv, I multiplied density of water (1000kg/m^{3})
dM=1000(9-y^{2})pi dy
(multiplied by gravity 9.8 m/s^{2})
dF=9800(9-y^{2})pi dy
(Now multiplied by distance (7-y))
dW=9800(9-y^{2})(7-y) dyNow I integrated dW with the limits from -3 to 3 and got the above result. I'm lost. :confused: Thanks for the help Ivy.
 
The distance to the top would be 7 - y if you chose y from the bottom. It appears that you have chosen y as the distance from the center.
 
Great! 4-y worked.

I can finally put this problem to rest. Thanks for the help everyone!
 
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