What is the significance of curl of of a vector field.

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The discussion focuses on understanding the significance of curl and divergence in vector fields, particularly in relation to fluid dynamics and electromagnetic fields. Curl measures the rotation of fluid elements around a given point, while divergence indicates the rate of expansion or contraction of a fluid element's surrounding sphere. The concepts are crucial for grasping the behavior of irrotational and solenoid fields, as well as their applications in physics, such as Maxwell's equations. The need for intuitive understanding beyond mathematical formulas is emphasized, highlighting the importance of practical applications in learning these concepts. Overall, a deeper comprehension of curl and divergence is sought for better application in fields like physics and engineering.
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I need help understanding the significance of curl and divergence.

I am nearly at the point where I know how to use Greene's, Stokes and the divergence theorems to convert line, surface, and iterated double and triple integrals. I know how the use the curl and div operators and about irrotational and solenoid fields.

I know that a vector field on a simply connected region with 0 curl, an irrotational field, it is the gradient of a scalar potential function and a line integral is path independent.

I know if the divergence of a field is 0 then it is a solenoid field, not conservative, has sinks/sources, and a stream function can be found.

It's still new to me but I will become comfortable with all of this. But my problem is that is not good enough. I don't want to just know how to use the tools, I want to develop an intuitive understanding of curl and divergence. I have spent a lot of time and effort learning words and equations that are useful for making line integrals easier to deal with. But I feel like I am missing something. They don't usually name theorems after guys for discovering a cool conversion formula.

What is the significance of curl and divergence? I still don't have a good mental picture of them. They are somehow connected to electric and magnetic fields. Brings to mind a uniform E field and a circular B field around a straight thin current. Maxwell's equations include both curl ond div of E and B. The problem with math classes is abstraction. I need applications to really understand it. I transfer to OSU to start pro school in the summer but so far haven't found many at my community college who could help me with this. I checked out the lone book on vector analysis at the library. It helped with the equations but the real understanding seems to elude me. Any help you guys have to offer I will accept with gratitude.
 
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Curl is a measure of the rate of change of a vector field in a direction perpendicular to the direction of the vector. As with many mathematical objects, you will get a better understanding of it as you go on using it.
 
I think that fluid flow is the best setting for the painting of an intuitive picture of curl and divergence. Imagine a fluid with velocity field ##\vec{v}##. The curl ##\vec{\nabla}\times\vec{v}## can be interpreted as follows: given a single fluid element, the curl measures the rotation of infinitesimally neighboring fluid elements about the given fluid element. Imagine now a small sphere of fluid elements centered about a given fluid element; the divergence ##\vec{\nabla}\cdot\vec{v}## measures the rate at which this sphere contracts or expands.
 
WannabeNewton said:
I think that fluid flow is the best setting for the painting of an intuitive picture of curl and divergence. Imagine a fluid with velocity field ##\vec{v}##. The curl ##\vec{\nabla}\times\vec{v}## can be interpreted as follows: given a single fluid element, the curl measures the rotation of infinitesimally neighboring fluid elements about the given fluid element. Imagine now a small sphere of fluid elements centered about a given fluid element; the divergence ##\vec{\nabla}\cdot\vec{v}## measures the rate at which this sphere contracts or expands.

Is it related to spherical coordinates?
 
I do not have a good working knowledge of physics yet. I tried to piece this together but after researching this, I couldn’t figure out the correct laws of physics to combine to develop a formula to answer this question. Ex. 1 - A moving object impacts a static object at a constant velocity. Ex. 2 - A moving object impacts a static object at the same velocity but is accelerating at the moment of impact. Assuming the mass of the objects is the same and the velocity at the moment of impact...

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