What is the significance of singlets and gauge invariance in particle physics?

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The discussion revolves around the significance of singlets and gauge invariance in particle physics, particularly in the context of Yukawa couplings involving scalar and fermionic fields. Participants explore the implications of representations in the context of gauge theories and the conditions for gauge invariance.

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  • One participant questions why the occurrence of a singlet in the tensor product implies gauge invariance, expressing confusion about the role of the remaining (3,0) part.
  • Another participant suggests that the appearance of a singlet is a necessary but not sufficient condition for gauge invariance.
  • A further contribution clarifies the distinction between reducible tensors and local products of fields, asserting that only the product forming a singlet is gauge invariant.
  • One participant inquires about the conditions for a subspace to be irreducibly invariant, proposing that it relates to the inability to form a tensor of lower rank through contraction.
  • A question is raised regarding the decomposition of tensor products and whether certain symmetric tensors can be concluded to form an irreducible subspace.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of singlets for gauge invariance, with some agreeing on the necessity of the singlet while others emphasize the need for further conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the sufficiency of these conditions and the nature of irreducible representations.

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Participants reference specific representations and tensor products without fully resolving the mathematical steps or assumptions involved in their arguments. The discussion includes complex concepts that may depend on specific definitions and contexts within gauge theory.

ledamage
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Hi folks!

Another stupid question: Consider a Yukawa coupling \lambda \bar{\psi}_1 \psi_2 \phi where \phi is a scalar field in the (2,-\frac{1}{2}) representation and \psi_1 and \psi_2 are lh. Weyl fields in the (2,-\frac{1}{2}) and (1,1) representation of \mathrm{SU}(2) \times \mathrm{U}(1). Why does the occurrence of the singlet (1,0) on the rhs of

(2,-\frac{1}{2}) \otimes (2,-\frac{1}{2}) \otimes (1,1) = (1,0) \oplus (3,0)

imply that this term is gauge-invariant? What about the (3,0) part? I just can't see it.
 
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Interesting question. I'm still learning this stuff so take this explanation with a grain of salt.

\varphi,\psi_1 live in two-dimensional field vector spaces, so when we juxtapose them we must end up with a 4-dimensional space according to the tensor product rule for multiplication of vector spaces. We can ignore \psi_2 because it is 1-dimensional.

Intuitively it makes sense that a doublet \varphi multiplied by the Dirac conjugate of another doublet is singlet, so \bar{\psi}_1\varphi must form a 1-dimensional subspace of our 4-dimensional tensor product space. The fact that we have a 3-dimensional subspace left over should not concern us much because \bar{\psi}_1\varphi doesn't live in there.
 
Yes, I think so. The appearance of a singlet in the above equation is just a necessary but not a sufficient condition for the term to be gauge invariant, right?
 
I'd say that's correct yes.
 
ledamage said:
The appearance of a singlet in the above equation is just a necessary but not a sufficient condition for the term to be gauge invariant,

Do not confuse the REDUCIBLE tensor

<br /> \bar{\psi}_{2} \otimes \phi \otimes \psi_{1} \equiv (2,1) \otimes (2,1) \otimes (1,-2) = (1,0) \oplus (3,0)<br />

with the local product of the fields

\bar{\psi}_{2} \phi \psi_{1} \in (1,0)

which forms the su(2)Xu(1)-invariant Yukawa coupling; anything belongs to a singlet is a scalar (invariant).
Indeed, using the transformations

\psi_{1} \rightarrow u_{1} \psi_{1}, \ \phi \rightarrow u_{2} \phi

\psi_{2} \rightarrow u_{1}u_{2} \psi_{2} = u_{2}u_{1} \psi_{2}

where u_{1} \in u(1) and u_{2} \in su(2), it is easy to show that

\bar{\psi}_{2} \phi \psi_{1} \rightarrow \bar{\psi}_{2} \phi \psi_{1}

We build up higher-dimensional irreducible representations by taking tensor pruducts of the fundamental representations and projecting out the invariant subspaces. Take the simple case of su(3), the fundamental representations are q \equiv [3] and \bar{q} \equiv [\bar{3}];

\bar{q} \otimes q \equiv [\bar{3}] \otimes [3] = [8] \oplus [1]

This corresponds to the tensor identity

<br /> \bar{q}_{i} q_{j} = \left( \bar{q}_{i} q_{j} - \frac{1}{3} \delta_{ij} \bar{q}_{k}q_{k} \right) + \frac{1}{3} \delta_{ij} \bar{q}_{k}q_{k}<br />

So, while

\{\bar{q} \otimes q \equiv \bar{q}_{i}q_{j}\} \in [\bar{3}]\otimes [3]

is a reducible su(3)-tensor,

\bar{q}_{k}q_{k} \in [1]

is an invariant ( su(3)-scalar).

The other object in the bracket(...) is an irreducible, traceless tensor with 8 components, i.e., it belongs to the octet [8] ( mesons or gluons matrix).

regards

sam
 
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Enlightenment! :)
 
A very nice explanation by samalkhaiat there.

Something I've been wondering is that given tensor components, e.g.,

\left( \bar{q}_{i} q_{j} - \frac{1}{3} \delta_{ij} \bar{q}_{k}q_{k} \right)

how does one deduce that the corresponding subspace is irreducibly invariant?

I believe a necessary and sufficient condition for this to hold is that it must not be possible to form a tensor of lower rank by contracting with the Kronecker delta and permutation symbol, although I don't quite understand why this works.
 
Suppose that I want to decompose \mathbf{3} \otimes \mathbf{6}. Is it sufficient to conclude that the symmetric tensors of the form T^{ijk}\equiv A^{ij}B^k+A^{ik}B^j+A^{kj}B^i form an irreducible subspace and that the remaining orthogonal subspace must be the adjoint rep because it has dimension 8?

Thus \mathbf{3}\otimes\mathbf{6} = \mathbf{10} \oplus \mathbf{8}.
 

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