What is the Simplest Form of a Field Extension of the Reals?

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The simplest form of a field extension of the reals is established as \(\mathbb{R}(a+ib)\) where \(a \in \mathbb{R}\) and \(b \in \mathbb{R}^\times\). This conclusion is supported by the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra, which allows for the assertion that any simple extension can be expressed in this manner. The discussion emphasizes that any two such extensions are isomorphic, reinforcing the idea that extensions of the reals are fundamentally linked to complex numbers. The necessity of using properties of squares in the argument is also highlighted, particularly in relation to the structure of the extensions.

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I am happy with my solutions of questions 1-4 below, but need some help on question 5.

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5. The squares in the reals are simply the positive reals and the non-squares are the negative reals so the quotient of two no squares is the quotient of two negative reals that is a positive real of in fact a square in the reals. - QED.

I solved part 4 by arguing that any extension is of the form \(F(\sqrt{a})\) by question 1 and any two such extensions are isomorphic by question 3.

Now to the main part of question 5.
If I can argue that any simple extension of the reals has the form \(\mathbb{R}(a+ib)\) where \(a\in \mathbb{R}, b\in \mathbb{R}^\times\) then I can easily argue that any two such extensions are isomorphic.

Certainly, extensions like \(\mathbb{R}(a+ib)\) exist because the reals are a sub-field of the complex numbers but how do I exclude the possibility of some obscure element being appended in some field bigger than the complex numbers? This seems a bit like saying the only way to create a simple field extension is to use \(F(z) \cong F[x]/p(x)\) that certainly is one way, but I can't be sure it is the only way.

I am also worried that I have not used the argument about a/b being a square and it seems that the question want's me to use that information?

If I am going to use an argument around squares it seems like I would be better showing that \(\mathbb{R}(a+ib)\) contains a-ib and calculating (a+ib)(a-ib) rather than a square? Perhaps I create two cosets by setting \(H=\{a+ib:b\in \mathbb{R}^+\}\), this doesn't work because H is not a group.

Can someone please give me some guidance? In particular will I need to follow through all of the steps laid our by questions 1-4 or do I simply show that two extensions are isomorphic?

Note: \(\mathbb{C} \cong \mathbb{R}(i)\)
 

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It seems something is missing, here-are you allowed to use the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra, or its real corollary: any real polynomial factors into quadratic or linear factors?

In that case, I believe you are supposed to show that any simple extension of $\Bbb R$ is of the form $\Bbb R(\sqrt{r})$, where $r < 0$. Refer to part 2.
 
Thanks Deveno.

The Fundamental theorem of algebra and its corollary were both introduced in this chapter of my book. So yes I can use them.

I haven't worked through the detail yet, but I expect it will be straightforward now that I know:

\(\mathbb{R}(z) \cong \mathbb{R}/p(x)\) where p(x) is (quadratic with characteristic not equal to 2) if \(z \notin \mathbb{R}\).
 

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