What is the simplified integral for evaluating double integrals with IBP?

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The discussion focuses on evaluating the double integral ∫∫[ye^(-xy)]dA over the region R=[0,2]×[0,3]. The initial approach involved changing the order of integration but led to incorrect results due to a misunderstanding of the chain rule. A suggestion was made to switch the order of integration to dy first, which simplifies the process. The correct method would involve integrating with respect to x first, as indicated by a hint from another participant. The conversation highlights the importance of proper application of integration techniques to avoid errors in complex integrals.
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Homework Statement


∫∫[ye^(-xy)]dA R=[0,2]×[0,3] evaluate the integral.


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So I started with some algebra changing the integral to ∫(e^-x)[∫ye^-ydy]dx
I evaluated the y portion first because its more difficult to deal with and wanted to get it out of the way.
I ended up integrating by parts with:
U=y dv=e^-x
Dy=dy v=-e^-x and got
-ye^(-y) - ∫-e^(-y)dy on the interval [0,3] and got -4e^(-3) + 1

This is now a constant, pulled it out of the x integral leaving:
(-4e^(-3) +1)∫e^(-x)dx
The final integral I evaluated as:
-e^(-x) on [0,2] gives
-e^(-2) + e^0 and this is multiplied by the previous number to give:
4e^(-6)-4e^(-3)-e^(-2)+1
Using a calculator to approximate I get a value of 0.692468
The answer in the book is .5e^(-6) + (5\2) which is approximated by a calculator as 2.5012394

I'm doing something wrong and I am wondering if there is a rule I forgot, do I need to integrate by x first and then y?
 
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rmiller70015 said:

Homework Statement


∫∫[ye^(-xy)]dA R=[0,2]×[0,3] evaluate the integral.

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


So I started with some algebra changing the integral to ∫(e^-x)[∫ye^-ydy]dx

It is wrong: ##(e^{-x})(ye^{-y})=ye^{-x-y}## instead of ##ye^{-xy}##

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I was walking back from the corner store when I realized this, but thank you for confirming it. I had, as another helper once told me "abused the chain rule."
 
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I was walking back from the corner store when I realized this, but thank you for confirming it. I had, as another helper once told me "abused the chain rule."

Oh my! Chain rule abuse! Oh Guard -- Guard! Come quickly before he gets away!
 
Hint: if y was constant, the integrand would be quite simple.
 
Verty's hint suggest that you do the integration in the other order:
\int_{y=0}^3\left[\int_{x= 0}^2 ye^{-xy}dx\right] dy

You should find that much simpler.
 
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