I What is the Symbol for Finite and How is it Interpreted?

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The discussion centers on the lack of a widely recognized symbol for finite, contrasting it with the established symbol for infinity (∞). Participants mention that while "finity" is not commonly used in English, it does exist as a term. The notation <∞ is preferred in mathematical contexts to indicate finiteness, and the extended real number set includes both finite and infinite elements. There is also a debate about the clarity of using various symbols to represent finiteness, with some cautioning against potential confusion in their meanings. Overall, the conversation highlights the complexities of defining and symbolizing finite concepts in mathematics.
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Is there a symbol for finite?
I know there's a symbol for infinite. But is there a finite one?
 
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It is usually written ##<\infty## or if it was done better ##=C<\infty##.
 
How about just specifying that the number in question is an element of the reals? There are no infinite reals.
 
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fresh_42 said:
It is usually written ##<\infty## or if it was done better ##=C<\infty##.
Dumb question. What is C in this case?
 
Some constant (finite) number. The real number @Nugatory spoke of.
 
Nugatory said:
How about just specifying that the number in question is an element of the reals? There are no infinite reals.
Is infinity undefined in reals ?
 
Finite and infinite are both adjectives. Although there is a noun form for infinity, I'm not aware of the existence of "finity" as a word in English. If so, we have a symbol for and a word for infinity, ##\infty##, we have neither a word or symbol for its opposite.
 
Mark44 said:
Finite and infinite are both adjectives. Although there is a noun form for infinity, I'm not aware of the existence of "finity" as a word in English. If so, we have a symbol for and a word for infinity, ##\infty##, we have neither a word or symbol for its opposite.
I prefer to think of them as mathematical constructs. English isn't necessary, which is good if you don't speak it.
 
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Is infinity undefined in reals ?
Yes. In some cases the set ##\overline{\mathbb{R}}=\mathbb{R}\cup \{\pm \infty \}## is used. It is referred to as extended real numbers.
 
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logically
finite = not infinite ##\Rightarrow \neg\infty## or ##!\infty## or ##\infty’## or ##\overline{\infty}##
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This page references the OED and says that finity is a word.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/finity
 
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fresh_42 said:
I'm sure mathematicians prefer <∞ over those code style notations.
Given the mathematical disdain for logic symbols, may we postulate a dearth of Vulcan mathematicians? :-p

fresh_42 said:
A slightly better reference:
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=finity

I liked the quotes in mine
    • 1874, Hawthorne, Julian, chapter 31, in Idolatry: A Romance:
      He was calm in the conviction that he could measure and calculate the universe […] He matched finity against the Infinite.
    • 1899, London, Jack, The White Silence:
      Nature has many tricks wherewith she convinces man of his finity.
    • 1987, Fraser, Julius Thomas, Time, the Familiar Stranger, →ISBN, page 37:
      In a very non-Aristotelian fashion, Nicholas of Cusa produced a synthesis of finity and infinity.
    • 2006, Witzsche, Rolf A. F., Universal Divine Science: Spiritual Pedagogicals, →ISBN, page 106:
      We […] labor to find our identity in the infinite in spite of our encumberment in finity.
    • 1734, Watts, Isaac, “A Brief Scheme of Ontology”, in Philosophical Essays on Various Subjects, 6th edition, London: T. Longman, T. Fields and C. Dilly, published 1794, page 370:
      Disagreement in substance or essence […] may be called Disproportion, as there is a disproportion between finities and infinities, i.e. there is no proportion between them.
    • 1837 September 2, “The Transcendalist's Dialogues: No. IX”, in The Shepherd, volume 3, number 10, page 79:
      If we imagined a person capable of comprehending infinity, we should merely think that he was able infinitely to add up finities.
    • 1884 January 1, “Prayer and Science”, in Methodist Quarterly Review (4th)‎[1], volume 66, page 8:
      And this condescension of infinite Perfection to the finities—to their imperfections, contingencies, and littlenesses—is the very result of its perfection.
 
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fresh_42 said:
It is usually written ##<\infty## or if it was done better ##=C<\infty##.
I think one has to be careful using that symbol. I have seen it mean convergence.
 
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