What is the terminal velocity of an aluminum loop in a magnetic field?

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The problem involves a square aluminum loop falling through a uniform magnetic field, with a focus on determining its terminal velocity and the dynamics of induced current. The context is rooted in electromagnetism and dynamics, particularly the interaction between magnetic fields and conductive materials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses confusion regarding the concept of terminal velocity, questioning the presence of a resisting force on the loop. Some participants suggest considering the induced current in the loop as a factor influencing its motion. Others seek clarification on how to calculate the induced current without specific dimensions provided.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of induced current and its relationship to the loop's motion. There is an exchange of ideas regarding the area of the loop and its rate of change, indicating a productive dialogue about the underlying principles.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of specific dimensions for the loop, which complicates the calculation of induced current and the overall analysis of the problem. The original poster's reference to the Lorentz force law suggests a foundational approach, but the lack of clarity on forces acting on the loop remains a point of contention.

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Homework Statement


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A square loop is cut out of a thick sheet of aluminum. It is then placed so that the top portion is in a uniform magnetic field B, and allowed to fall under gravity. (In the diagram, shading indicates the field region; B points into the page.) If the magnetic field is 1 Tesla, find the terminal velocity of the loop (in m/s). Find the velocity of the loop as a function of time. How long does it take (in seconds) to reach, say, 90% of the terminal velocity? What would happen if you cut a tiny slit in the ring, breaking the circuit?

I've attached a reproduction of the diagram.

Homework Equations


Lorentz force law (perhaps?):
F = q(E + B x v)

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm completely stumped, not even sure where to start. It doesn't make sense to talk about terminal velocity unless there's some force resisting the motion of the loop. However, as far as I can tell, there is none. The loop will simply drop out of the field region, and subsequently only experience a force due to gravity (i.e., no terminal velocity).

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HINT: Consider the induced current in the loop :wink:
 
Sorry, could you elaborate on that? It's not clear to me how to calculate the induced current, considering the dimensions of the loop are not given.
 
JohnDuck said:
Sorry, could you elaborate on that? It's not clear to me how to calculate the induced current, considering the dimensions of the loop are not given.
Ahh, but you know that the loop is a square so it's area is [itex]\ell^2[/itex] where [itex]\ell[/itex] is the length of one side. Furthermore,

[tex]A = \ell^2 \Rightarrow \frac{dA}{dt} = 2\ell\cdot\frac{d\ell}{dt}[/tex]

But,

[tex]\frac{d\ell}{dt} = v[/tex]

Hence,

[tex]\frac{dA}{dt} = 2\ell\cdot v}[/tex]

Do you follow?

Edit: A decent reference: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/electric/elevol.html#c3
 
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