What is the total probability for the given wavefunction?

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The discussion revolves around a wavefunction expressed as psi=1*[1/sqrt(6)]*psi_1 + 2*psi_2, with participants tasked with finding the total probability associated with this wavefunction. The subject area is quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on wavefunctions and probability calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss how to square the wavefunction to find the total probability, with some suggesting the use of the FOIL method. There are questions regarding the normalization of the wavefunctions and the implications of the coefficients in the wavefunction on the probabilities. The concept of orthogonality between different wavefunctions is also mentioned.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with multiple participants questioning the normalization of the wavefunctions and the validity of the coefficients used in the wavefunction. Some guidance has been offered regarding the squaring of the wavefunction and the need to consider orthogonality, but there is no consensus on the correct interpretation or resolution of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the wavefunction may not be properly normalized, raising concerns about the total probability not summing to one. There is uncertainty about the correct coefficients in the wavefunction and their impact on the probability calculations.

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Homework Statement


Okay, here it is: The wavefunction is psi=1*[1/sqrt(6)]*psi_1 + 2*psi_2 and I have to find the total probability (yes, there is a "weight" of 2 in front of the second part of the wavefunction).



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I know that psi^2 gives the probability, but I don't understand how to square this. Do I foil or something?


The Attempt at a Solution


psi_squared: (1/6)psi_1+ (2/3)psi_2 ?
 
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Are you sure isn't a [tex]\frac{2}{{\sqrt 3 }}[/tex] instead of a 2 for the 2nd wave function? Although even with that, your probabilities don't add up to 1 if the stationary states are normalized as they should...

You do foil it though, yes. Also remember to consider orthogonality between different psi's.
 
Pengwuino said:
Are you sure isn't a [tex]\frac{2}{{\sqrt 3 }}[/tex] instead of a 2 for the 2nd wave function? Although even with that, your probabilities don't add up to 1 if the stationary states are normalized as they should...

You do foil it though, yes. Also remember to consider orthogonality between different psi's.

I *think* it's just a 2, not 2/sqrt(3)...

By the way, I don't see how the probabilities add up to 1 if it's 2/sqrt(3)...
 
DummBlonde said:
I *think* it's just a 2, not 2/sqrt(3)...

By the way, I don't see how the probabilities add up to 1 if it's 2/sqrt(3)...

It won't. I should have asked this first but is Psi and psi_1, psi_2 normalized in the problem you're having?
 
One more thing: since the weight of the second part of the wavefunction is a 2, which is twice as great as the first part, it would seem to me that the second wavefunction is twice as likely to occur. That is, psi_1 would be 33% and psi_2 would be 67%. However, I don't understand how the 1/sqrt(6) fits in...
 
Well you have to multiply the 1 and the 1/sqrt(6). Your wavefunction then looks like:

[tex]\Psi = \frac{1}{{\sqrt 6 }}\psi _1 + 2\psi _2[/tex]

Thus the probability of finding [tex]\psi_2[/tex] is [tex]2\sqrt 6[/tex] times as likely as finding [tex]\psi_1[/tex]. Though something is seemingly missing in this problem because the coefficients of each [tex]\psi[/tex] squared must add up to 1 since the particle has to exist...
 
I am soooo lost too...
obviously, the total probability should be one, because one must find something at some where...
And yes, the wave function is not properly normalized, that only makes things even worse.

Yes, the probability of a wavefunction is l[tex]\Psi[/tex]l^2, as long as the function is NORMALIZED.
And how to find it? Well, pretty much you just simply do it. And you'll see you can get some terns.
And using the orthogonality of wavefunctions could let you discard some of the terms (although technically, from just your question, I don't really know whether they are orthogonal or not). And I hope at this point you'll see the problem of your question. What is the probability after your calculation? And what should the total probability be?
 

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