What is the Twin Paradox and How Does Space Affect Time?

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The discussion revolves around the Twin Paradox, a concept in relativity that raises questions about how time is experienced differently by individuals in different frames of reference, particularly between a twin traveling in space and one remaining on Earth. Participants explore the implications of time dilation, the nature of time, and the relationship between time and biological processes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants seek clarification on the Twin Paradox and why a person's internal clock runs slower in space compared to someone on Earth.
  • One participant suggests that the Twin Paradox is a common misunderstanding related to inertial and non-inertial frames of reference.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding proper time as a coordinate-independent property of a clock's motion.
  • Questions are raised about the implications of time dilation on biological clocks and aging processes, with some participants expressing confusion about why time should not run at equal speeds everywhere.
  • A participant argues that the concept of "running slower" is misleading without a proper understanding of how time is measured and compared between different clocks.
  • It is noted that the different aging of the twins is due to their distinct paths through spacetime, with one path being shorter in duration than the other.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding the Twin Paradox, with no consensus reached on the implications of time dilation or the nature of time itself. Multiple competing views and interpretations remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for clarity regarding definitions of time and the conditions under which time is measured, indicating that assumptions about time's uniformity may not hold in relativistic contexts.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring concepts in relativity, time dilation, and the philosophical implications of time measurement in physics.

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TWIN PARADOX-What's that??

Can anybody please tell me about the TWIN PARADOX and that why does a person's internal clock run slower in space as compared to the person who's on earth??
 
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supreabajaj said:
Can anybody please tell me about the TWIN PARADOX and that why does a person's internal clock run slower in space as compared to the person who's on earth??

I agree with A.T., but I only wanted to say that this sentence is false : in special relativity, you must set the system of reference.
 


You only have to specify the coordinate system if you're talking about coordinates. He asked about an actual measurement by an actual clock. In the mathematical model, this corresponds to the proper time of the curve in spacetime that represents the clock's motion, and proper time is a coordinate independent property of a curve.
 


Brief answer: the twin paradox is an famous common error people make when they start pondering the idea of an observers frame of reference, but haven't yet learned to pay attention to the difference between inertial and noninertial frames.

(There are some variations that arise from other kinds of errors, but the above is the most typical version)
 


But what I want to know is that why does a person's internal biological clock run slower when he is in space?? And that why does a clock attached to the non-inertial frame of reference ( ie. the spacecraft ) lose time?? And even if it does, what has it to do with the aging process?? Shouldn't time run at equal speeds at all the places?? Please help me guys...
 


supreabajaj said:
But what I want to know is that why does a person's internal biological clock run slower when he is in space?? And that why does a clock attached to the non-inertial frame of reference ( ie. the spacecraft ) lose time?? And even if it does, what has it to do with the aging process?? Shouldn't time run at equal speeds at all the places?? Please help me guys...

But what is time? In physics, we define quantities by saying what physical operations we do to measure them. To define a time we use a clock made of light. It turns out that light (or the electromagnetic field) has some strange symmetries, which make "time" as defined by light clocks run fast or slow.
 


supreabajaj said:
But what I want to know is that why does a person's internal biological clock run slower when he is in space??
You have to understand what "runs slower" means.

The biggest, most important thing to understand is that there is no absolute notion of time -- you can't ask the universe "what time is it?" and have it tell you "12:06 AM, EDT".

It doesn't make any sense to say things like "his clock is running slow". You need to understand why this is nonsense before you can understand anything on this subject.

The only thing we can do is to compare different clocks. (And unless they're right next to each other, we need to devise some protocol for making the comparison)

What would be correct to say is that the Earthbound observer chose some specific method to compare his clock to the spacebound clock, and found when using this method, the space clock was running at a slower rate.



As for why they had aged differently when they met back up, that's simply because they took different routes through space-time, and the space-bound twin's route was shorter in duration than the Earth-bound twin's route.

(This is very closely related to the fact of Euclidean geometry that a straight line is the shortest distance between two points -- any other path between two points is longer)
 


Thanks.
 

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