What is the unknown mass in a pulley block problem with given variables?

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The problem involves two blocks connected over a pulley, with one block sliding down an incline at constant speed. Given the mass of block A, the coefficient of kinetic friction, and the angle of the incline, the goal is to determine the unknown mass of block B.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of forces, including friction and tension, and question how to find the mass of block B without knowing the acceleration. There are attempts to clarify the role of kinetic versus static friction in the context of constant velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of constant velocity on acceleration and the relationship between the two blocks. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of friction and its components, but no consensus has been reached on the approach to find the unknown mass.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of correctly identifying the type of friction and the assumptions regarding the system, such as the inextensibility of the string and the constant velocity condition.

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Homework Statement


Two blocks are connected over a pulley. The mass of block A is 10 kg and the coefficient of kinetic friction between A and the incline 0.20. Angle [tex]theta[/tex] of the incline is 30 degrees. Block A slides down the incline at constant speed. What is the mass of block B?

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Homework Equations


Fs=mgsin[tex]theta[/tex]

Sin[tex]theta[/tex]= Fs/mg

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried using substition in order to find the second mass, but that route bore no fruit.

9.8 x 10 x sin 30= 49
Fs=49
T- mgsin[tex]theta[/tex]=ma
T-49=ma
T=ma+49

-T+m(subscript 2)g= M(subscript2)a (we substitute t for ma+49)
-(m(subscript 1)a+49)+m(subscript 2)g= M(subscript 2)a
-msub1-49+msub2g=msub2a

all that boils down to is

(9.8m(sub2)-49)/(10+msub2)= a

How exactly am I supposed to find the second mass without knowing the acceleration?
 
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when you found the Fs that was static friction? because the block is under a constant velocity so it is actually kinetic friction.

and also you did 9.8x10xsin30 but you didn't include the frictional constant in there.
 
Alrighty. But even if I do include the kinetic friction, how would I find a?
 
well the problem states that Block A (m2) is sliding down at a constant velocity. constant velocity means what type of acceleration?

and if block A has acceleration (a) and we're assuming that the string doesn't stretch what does that say about block B's acceleration?
 
Constant velocity means no acceleration
And ah, ok :)
 
yes also your calculation for friction was wrong it should be:

[tex]\mu_kN[/tex]

and you know N as one of the components of mg and you know the downward is mgsintheta
 
Right right. Thanks so much :)
 

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